[WSBAPT] Will vs. TODD

Mark Anderson marka at mbaesq.com
Tue Aug 20 16:40:19 PDT 2024


At first blush, it seems to me that the Beneficiary should be able to disclaim or decline an interest in the property through the TODD but still preserve the Beneficiary's right to any interest in the property passing through the Will.  It's just that the beneficiary does not want to acquire title with all of the possible title blemishes and exposure to creditor claims.

RCW 11.86.011 defines an "interest" as including "any vested or contingent interest in such property" and, specifically, under RCW 11.86.011(o), an interest created "by surviving the death of a transfer or of a transfer on death deed."  The interest created by the transfer on death deed is separate and distinct from an interest created by a will.  By identifying the different categories of interests that may be disclaimed, I don't think that the statute could reasonably be interpreted as requiring an "all or nothing" approach to disclaiming an interest.

Perhaps it goes unsaid but, for the disclaimer of a TODD interest to be effective, the Death Certificate with a REETA must not be recorded with regard to that property.  That would foul things up for sure.

Mark B. Anderson
ANDERSON LAW FIRM PLLC
821 Dock St  Ste 209  PMB 4-12
Tacoma, Washington 98402
+1 253-327-1750
+1 253-327-1751 (fax)
marka at mbaesq.com<mailto:marka at mbaesq.com>
www.mbaesq.com<http://www.mbaesq.com/>
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
This transmission is confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual named recipient. It may be protected by the attorney-client privilege, work product doctrine, or other confidentiality protection. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, be advised that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender via e-mail or by telephone at (253) 327-1750 that you have received the message in error, and then delete it. Thank you.

From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Paul Neumiller
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2024 3:33 PM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBAPT] Will vs. TODD

OK, so we know the title companies have multiple problems with Transfer on Death Deeds.  But, I was wondering has anyone done an analysis of whether it is a good idea to prepare a TODD anyway and give the family an option to use the TODD if the circumstances are right when the Decedent passes. (A lot of estate planning clients are coming in and requesting a TODD)  RCW 64.80.100 appears to lock-in the family if the Decedent signed and recorded a TODD.  But a beneficiary can still disclaim the interest using RCWs 64.80.110 and 11.86.041 "(1) Unless the instrument creating an interest directs to the contrary, the interest disclaimed shall pass as if the beneficiary had died immediately prior to the date of the transfer of the interest."

So, can a beneficiary disclaim receiving the real property via the TODD but still receive the real property via terms of the Decedent's Will?  (Yeah, I know, the recipients under the TODD and under the Will need to be the same.)  If so, then by preparing the TODD, the family may have the option to utilize the TODD if it's a good idea and disclaim the TODD if its not a good idea.  Any thoughts?


[cid:image001.jpg at 01DAF319.61389100]


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20240820/f309e1db/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 14264 bytes
Desc: image001.jpg
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20240820/f309e1db/image001.jpg>


More information about the WSBAPT mailing list