[WSBAPT] Ambiguity in will.

Diane J. Kiepe DJKiepe at depdslaw.com
Fri Sep 2 14:29:40 PDT 2022


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Diane J. Kiepe

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Ken,

Before the “if he doesn’t survive” language, it says “except as provided below.”  If below there is no devise to the son, either a specific bequest or part of the residuary, I still say he gets 0.

Jeff

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The will provides the son gets nothing “if he does not survive me.”  What does he get if he does survive? He only doesn’t get anything if he doesn’t survive.

kl

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I agree with everyone, that son gets nothing.  Its my understanding that as long as child is mentioned as a child, the fact that the Will leaves that child nothing, means just that, child gets 0.  You don’t even need a disinheritance clause, let alone the one Ken is facing.

Jeff

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That’s my reading as well. Terrible drafting though!
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On Sep 2, 2022, at 1:33 PM, Kerry Brink <Kbrink at vjglaw.com<mailto:Kbrink at vjglaw.com>> wrote:
 I definitely think I would read it as the son gets nothing. I would read it that Son gets nothing and likewise son’s descendants get nothing if Son does not survive testator.
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On Sep 2, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Ken Luce <Ken.Luce at lucelawfirm.com<mailto:Ken.Luce at lucelawfirm.com>> wrote:

Can someone tell me how to interpret this? A Will provides:
          “Except as provided blow, I make no provision in this Will for my son___,
         nor his descendants, if he does not survive me.” The son survived. The
will makes no further mention of the son and leaves the RRR to
someone not his son.  Does the above language  disinherit the son?
Nothing is said about if or what the son inherits if he does survive.
All help appreciated.

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