[WSBAPT] Attorney as PR

Philip N. Jones pjones at duffykekel.com
Wed Jul 6 21:15:25 PDT 2022


Down here in Oregon, sone judges frown on attorneys drafting wills that nominate themselves as PR.  They think that the attorney is trying to drum up business.  I think it is acceptable, but only if the client has no other options.  But in this case, you did not draft the will.
I will not mention the prickly problem of how much compensation should be paid to an attorney who is serving as both PR and as attorney for the PR.  I will not mention that subject at all.  Not even once.
Phil Jones

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On Jul 6, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Tom Westbrook <tjw at w3net.net> wrote:


Agree, and when I have done the informed consent agreement I make it clear that I did not want to act as PR but the client was adamant that they wanted me to so act, along with other stuff.

Sincerely,

Tom

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I think it would involve informed written consent, as an anticipated future business relationship with client.

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There is a BAR ethics opinion on this - its OK. Mike

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Client (that I am not connected with in any way) has asked that I serve as the back-up PR to the one person that they have.

Would appreciate hearing from colleagues as to your feelings on this - I guess I have always taken the position that as an attorney I should not have any role in the estate other than as the legal role of counsel. If you don't want to share your thoughts with the group - but still are willing to share - please email me directly brent at williams-ruthlaw.com<mailto:brent at williams-ruthlaw.com>

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