[WSBAPT] Estate Planning for Nonresident (Brent Williams-Ruth)

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Fri Dec 9 15:40:23 PST 2022


Brent

PLI's book on International Tax & Estate Planning: A Practical Guide for Multinational Investors (Third Edition) by Robert C. Lawrence is good.  

It is expensive, though.

Yuping Wang
WYP Law PLLC
Seattle WA
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Referral (Christie Martin)
   2. dumb tax question (Mike  Zeno)
   3. Re: dumb tax question (Philip N. Jones)
   4. Estate Planning for Nonresident (Brent Williams-Ruth)
   5. reasonable repayment plan (Athena Dickerson)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 00:12:42 +0000
From: Christie Martin <christie at cascadialawyers.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Referral
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We can assist as well.  Can file from anywhere in Oregon.

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Date: Monday, December 5, 2022 at 11:14 AM
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Listmates,

Does anyone have a referral to a probate attorney in Newport, Oregon?  Looks to be an Oregon taxable estate.

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 01:19:35 +0000
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Friend/client could either have the estate sell property or distribute it and sell it himself.  Property has appreciated since date of death, so there will be gain.  I know trust/estate brackets are compressed, so it may be better to distribute and then sell so that the capital gain is taxed on the beneficiaries' returns.  But, maybe it makes no difference, because distribution of sales proceeds will be DNI and will carry the capital gains out to the beneficiary returns anyway?  Does anyone know the answer?

Any assistance is appreciated.

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 05:51:34 +0000
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With a few exceptions, the capital gain will not be carried out to the beneficiaries unless the sale by the trust takes place in the final tax year of the trust.
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Friend/client could either have the estate sell property or distribute it and sell it himself.  Property has appreciated since date of death, so there will be gain.  I know trust/estate brackets are compressed, so it may be better to distribute and then sell so that the capital gain is taxed on the beneficiaries? returns.  But, maybe it makes no difference, because distribution of sales proceeds will be DNI and will carry the capital gains out to the beneficiary returns anyway?  Does anyone know the answer?



Any assistance is appreciated.



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 09:39:45 -0800
From: Brent Williams-Ruth <brent at williams-ruthlaw.com>
To: "WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv" <WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBAPT] Estate Planning for Nonresident
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Greetings List -

As I plan my holiday reading (don't judge me) I am hoping to learn more about the estate planning techniques available to nonresidents who are not US citizens, with US Assets.

Does anyone have recommendations? Given how there seems to be a lawful way to do almost anything, I am seeking to learn about options available to people who fall into that bracket of only have a $60,000 estate tax exemption and what can be done to avoid the Estate tax.

Appreciate books, treatises, scholarly articles, etc. I have a few long-haul flights coming up and scheduled down time where I will be free to dive into some rabbit holes!

Thank you,
brent

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 18:22:15 +0000
From: Athena Dickerson <athena at detsparlaw.com>
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All knowing UD gurus,

We have had a lot of these situations come up lately:  Tenant is served 14-day notice, repayment plan and ERPP notice, signs the repayment plan and then defaults after making a payment.  For these we have been re-serving a 14-day notice and maybe the ERPP notice but no new repayment plan.  Then, if need be, moving forward with UD.

I am curious what folks are doing for tenants who are served a 14-day notice packet (reasonable repayment plan and ERPP notice also) and then tenants do not enter a reasonable repayment plan but make a random payment to their balance.   DRC issues a certificate because tenants didn?t participate in the process.   What we have been doing since a payment was made and the reasonable repayment plan was never signed, is to start over with a new notice packet (including another reasonable repayment plan) since no reasonable repayment plan was agreed to or defaulted on the first time.  I am now wondering if anyone is re-serving a 14-day in this situation without the reasonable repayment plan and having any luck, probably wishful thinking ?.

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