[WSBAPT] Creditor Claim - No Direct Notice Provided but Probate Closed

Diane J. Kiepe DJKiepe at depdslaw.com
Tue Oct 19 23:14:23 PDT 2021


Hi Brent

It totally makes sense the court clerk allowed the filing bc they really just process what is presented.

I have heard one school of thought is to take no action-this puts the burden on the creditor to demand you reject or pay and trigger the process that follows.

Another school of thought is to reject bc PR has closed estate - this would require the creditor file an objection within 30 days to establish it was a reasonably ascertainable creditor entitled to direct notice and at that point you’d probably advise the client to pay bc after all the answer and appearance will cost more then the claim.

Third option is to have PR pay-if sole beneficiary or main beneficiary this may be the direction the client wants to take to just put it behind him/her.

In conclusion, it’s a conversation to be had with the client and take direction accordingly

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Heather de Vrieze <heatherd at westseattlelaw.com> wrote:


My typical response is either to ignore, or reply that the estate is closed. If the Personal Representative has retained funds, payment is an option, but I don’t think required, unless the provider was reasonably ascertainable. Were they sending bills?

Heather

Heather S. de Vrieze
Attorney-at-Law
<image001.jpg>
3909 California Avenue SW
Seattle, WA 98116-3705
(206)938-5500
heatherd at westseattlelaw.com<mailto:heatherd at westseattlelaw.com>
www.westseattlelaw.com<http://www.westseattlelaw.com/>
Click here to connect with de Vrieze | Carney on Facebook:   <https://www.facebook.com/DeVriezeCarney>
<image002.png>

CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED. This e-mail message may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information.  If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this e-mail message and any attachment.

From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Brent Williams-Ruth
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 1:40 PM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBAPT] Creditor Claim - No Direct Notice Provided but Probate Closed

Greetings Brilliant thinkers -

Estate closed through Declaration of Completion on May 20, 2021 - effective June 20, 2021.

Creditor Claim filed by our friends at DCM Services on behalf of a cell phone carrier on October 12th.

The Executor did not give actual notice to this phone company, but did publish. There are no facts to be known that would establish why they were not reasonably ascertainable.

I am struggling to see what options exist other than to:
1) pay the $340
2) ignore the letter because the probate is closed (though interestingly enough, the clerk allowed them to file in the case despite a Declaration of Completion).
3) issue a denial where the executor simply provides the affidavit of publication and claims that the creditor period is completed.

Appreciate any thoughts on the matter.

Brent

Brent Williams-Ruth (pronouns: he/him)
Attorney-At-Law

Law Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth, a division of BWR Consulting, PLLC

Physical Address: 500 S 336th Street, Suite 214; Federal Way, WA 98003

**EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY** All mail sent through the USPS should be sent to the following address: PO BOX 3319; Federal Way, WA 98063

Office/Scheduling Phone: (253) 285-7751

Direct: (253) 285-7453

e-mail<mailto:Brent at Williams-RuthLaw.com> / website<http://www.williams-ruthlaw.com/> / facebook<http://www.facebook.com/bwrlaw> /

***Disclaimer: Please note that RPPT listserv participation is not restricted to practicing attorneys and may include non-practicing attorneys, law students, professionals working in related fields, and others.***
_______________________________________________
WSBAPT mailing list
WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com
http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20211020/4d58462e/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 17884 bytes
Desc: image001.jpg
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20211020/4d58462e/image001.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image002.png
Type: image/png
Size: 18009 bytes
Desc: image002.png
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20211020/4d58462e/image002.png>


More information about the WSBAPT mailing list