[WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate

[michael westseattleattorney.com]

5 years so well within sol

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On Nov 18, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Jeff at bellanddavispllc.com wrote:


One question, how old is the judgment?

Jeff

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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate

Another quick off the cuff thought or two:


  1.  Really nothing to probate because of the CPA.
  2.  CPA still subject to decedent’s proper claims.
  3.  You can always talk with a debtor but you could also follow the creditor claims statute once you determine the reach of the judgement.  If no filing timely there will be a bar.  If there is a timely filing then you could begin negotiating.  When negotiating decedent’s debts, don’t forget the family allowance (FA) (which now in King County is I believe over $700,000.00).  I have used the FA as leverage for creditor’s who took fifty cents on the dollar.  I explained we had only so much money and that money could be paid mostly to lawyers in a Family Allowance hearing or they could agree to take less.  It worked out well.
  4.  I realize these thoughts are super substantive but maybe will get response on other experiences with the FA.

Diane J. Kiepe

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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate

Hi Mike—

Partial answer, off the top of my head:

There are cases about liability of a spouse for the other’s debts.  See Haley v. Highland, 142 Wn.2d 135 (2000), which deals with this issue and cites earlier important cases.  (There may be more recent salient cases).

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Subject: [WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate

Married couple with Wills and CPA.  H gets a Judgement against him. H dies and W does not probate will but has a CPA. W dies and heirs open probate and try to sell real property only to find a Judgement against H. Judgement would make estate insolvent.
Two questions come to mind.
1. Doesn't Judgement attach only to H's share?  Does a probate need to be opened for H's estate?
2. Can W 's PR simply request Judgement debtor reduce Judgement to H's share at time of H's death?
Thanks Mike

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