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<blockquote type="cite">On Nov 18, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Jeff@bellanddavispllc.com wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One question, how old is the judgment?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jeff<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">W. Jeff Davis<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">BELL & DAVIS PLLC</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
P.O. Box 510<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">720 E. Washington Street, Suite 105<br>
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email: </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a><span style="color:black"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane J. Kiepe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 18, 2021 1:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Another quick off the cuff thought or two:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">Really nothing to probate because of the CPA.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">CPA still subject to decedent’s proper claims.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">You can always talk with a debtor but you could also follow the creditor claims statute once you determine the reach of the judgement. If no filing
timely there will be a bar. If there is a timely filing then you could begin negotiating. When negotiating decedent’s debts, don’t forget the family allowance (FA) (which now in King County is I believe over $700,000.00). I have used the FA as leverage
for creditor’s who took fifty cents on the dollar. I explained we had only so much money and that money could be paid mostly to lawyers in a Family Allowance hearing or they could agree to take less. It worked out well.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size:16.0pt">I realize these thoughts are super substantive but maybe will get response on other experiences with the FA.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold""><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Douglas Eden<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">717 W. Sprague Ave.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:djkiepe@depdslaw.com">djkiepe@depdslaw.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">509-455-5300<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Zeno<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 18, 2021 1:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060">Hi Mike—<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060">Partial answer, off the top of my head:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#002060">There are cases about liability of a spouse for the other’s debts. See
<i>Haley v. Highland</i>, 142 Wn.2d 135 (2000), which deals with this issue and cites earlier important cases. (There may be more recent salient cases). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>michael westseattleattorney.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 18, 2021 11:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserve <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Married couple with Wills and CPA. H gets a Judgement against him. H dies and W does not probate will but has a CPA. W dies and heirs open probate and try to sell real property
only to find a Judgement against H. Judgement would make estate insolvent. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Two questions come to mind. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">1. Doesn't Judgement attach only to H's share? Does a probate need to be opened for H's estate? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">2. Can W 's PR simply request Judgement debtor reduce Judgement to H's share at time of H's death? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Thanks Mike <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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