[WSBAPT] CHAIN OF TITLE QUESTION AND POSSIBLE REFERRAL

Laura Latta laura at lauralatta.com
Mon Nov 15 19:27:33 PST 2021


Thank you for your thoughts, Diane.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 6:42 PM Diane J. Kiepe <DJKiepe at depdslaw.com> wrote:

> Hi Laura,
>
>
>
> I think you are actually right on track.  The Lender’s deed transfers
> nothing if not signed in their capacity as trustee’s (and this would be the
> case if the were singing as H&W).  The Lender may be trying to avoid an
> opinion on the refi involving a trust but who knows, maybe simply
> overlooked the deed into trust.
>
>
>
> With the above in mind, I would also be concerned that the lender has all
> the paperwork in the parties individual names which would include them
> making some sort of representations that they have power to sign the
> documents and this would concern me as their counsel; enough to visit with
> them on the subject.  I don’t know maybe it’s just been a long day and I’m
> feeling overly jaded (😉).  I’ll be curious to see what other’s say but
> in this instance, if it really has to be in their names for the refi, it
> should be transferred out of trust first – and if this is required, I would
> want to be sure the bank doesn’t have a prohibition against transferring
> the real property back into the trust with the mortgage.  They shouldn’t.
>
>
>
> I just completed a letter for a refi to let the lender know the Living
> Trust could qualify for financing (in addition to a natural person) because
> the living trust met various criteria.
>
>
>
> Best to you.
>
>
>
> *Diane J. Kiepe*
>
>
>
> Diane J. Kiepe
>
> Douglas Eden
>
> 717 W. Sprague Ave.
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> Suite 1500
>
> Spokane, WA  99201
>
> djkiepe at depdslaw.com
>
> 509-455-5300
>
>
>
> *From:* wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <
> wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Laura Latta
> *Sent:* Monday, November 15, 2021 5:41 PM
> *To:* WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* [WSBAPT] CHAIN OF TITLE QUESTION AND POSSIBLE REFERRAL
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>
> An estate planning client executed a deed transferring property from
> themselves as husband and wife to their living trust. Two weeks later, as
> part of a refi, the lender has the clients execute a deed from themselves
> as husband and wife to themselves as joint tenants.
>
> The purpose of the deed appears to be adding the wife's married name to
> the chain of title (she had not changed her name when they purchased the
> house originally). The issue is potentially that the QCD prepared by the
> lender names the husband and wife in their individual capacities rather
> than as trustees and totally ignores the QCD to the trust which is the last
> document in the chain of title.
>
> Any thoughts on how/whether to address this? In particular, I'm trying to
> wrap my mind around whether this is an issue for the clients or only the
> lender. Or maybe a problem for the lender is a problem for the borrower.
> Being that this is outside my wheelhouse, I'd love to refer it out if
> anyone is interested.
>
>
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