[WSBAPT] Negotiating DSHS Lien

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Wed Mar 24 07:09:44 PDT 2021


Jeff:

 

I have negotiated DSHS claims (in much smaller amounts) with good results a
couple of times.  In both cases the recovery agent was willing to listen,
explain DSHS's position, and make a modest compromise.  I simply picked up
the phone and called the agent assigned to the particular case.  I
approached them by "wondering if you can help" and asking "if there is
anything you can do" for my client.  In both instances, it was very
non-adversarial.  I doesn't hurt to ask if something can be worked out.

 

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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Negotiating DSHS Lien

 

Heather,

 

He was hoping to negotiate a price lower than the total value of the house
and pay that amount to DSHS in full satisfaction of its claim; he would like
to keep the house.  However, I doubt DSHS wants to compromise its claim
unless you can argue even if it forecloses its lien, there will be costs of
sale.

 

Jeff

 

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Jeff,

 

In no case will the recoverable amount exceed the assets remaining in the
estate. Are you hoping to negotiate to keep the property for the PC, or for
PC to keep some of the proceeds? The costs of the administration can be paid
before DSHS gets paid, but sometimes that needs to be coordinated so escrow
doesn't send the net proceeds to DSHS and can close despite the lien
exceeding the sale price.

 

Heather

 

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Listmates:

 

PC's mother passed after having been on COPES for the last four years.  DSHS
Estate Recovery is seeking return of over $117,000.  Mom's only asset is a
paid off home worth approximately $70,000.00.  No probate is started.
Question is have any of you had luck in negotiating down on the DSHS claim
(and lien) and if so, where do you start?

 

Jeff Davis

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