[WSBAPT] Student Loans

Wed Jul 28 10:52:57 PDT 2021

I don't know if it's legally required, Paul, but I would err on the side of caution and instruct my client to pull it.  But is there a reason I shouldn't?

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Candace

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Paul Neumiller
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 1:38 PM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Student Loans

WHOA!?!?!  Is a PR pulling a decedent's credit report a part of the standard due diligence in locating ascertainable creditors.  Are you guys routinely advising your PRs to pull a credit report?  Amy's client suspected that there were student loans.  Does that suspicion require pulling a credit repost.  What if the PR is clueless as to the decedent's affairs.  Is pulling a credit report a part of the due diligence then?

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Amy Goertz
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 10:16 AM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Student Loans

Great information - thank you to all who responded!

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Amy

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On Jul 28, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Elizabeth Bateman <Elizabeth at batemanlawgroup.com<mailto:Elizabeth at batemanlawgroup.com>> wrote:

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Joshua McKarcher
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:49 AM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Student Loans

Two ideas:

Years ago at least there was a federal database of student loans. It may still exist. Try googling it?

Get a recent credit report (three agency) for the deceased.

Good luck! Best, Josh

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> on behalf of Amy Goertz <amyjgoertz at icloud.com<mailto:amyjgoertz at icloud.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 7:48:59 AM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: [WSBAPT] Student Loans

Good Morning,

I have a probate in which the Personal Representative is certain that the decedent had student loans, but is unable to find any paperwork or other documentation from any lender.

Student loan payments have been suspended during the pandemic, so no bills have been received and no electronic debits have been made from her account.

In the past, decedents' student loans have been forgiven upon the borrower's death, but it is my understanding that this is not the case if the loan is from a private lender.

Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to find out who holds the decedent's student loans?

The creditor claim period has now ended and we would like to wrap this up.

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Amy

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