[WSBAPT] Oath of PR v. Declaration of PR

Fri Mar 20 10:17:20 PDT 2020

But isn't an Oath of Personal Representative an "Oath of Office" contemplated in section (4) of the linked statute?
"(4) This section does not apply to writings requiring an acknowledgment, depositions, oaths of office, or oaths required to be taken before a special official other than a notary public."

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What about this provision?

https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9A.72.085

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Yes. I've never considered the statutory language to permit an oath of a PR to be made through declaration.

John J. Sullivan

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https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28.170<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__app.leg.wa.gov_RCW_default.aspx-3Fcite-3D11.28.170&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=z5lwBaVm9sc2C54yY_FPxTMT_RJMPLISAW_7ZYYYxoA&m=Aa5SluWgbEEer9UAztpKAfResYrAWZlPn-LGV7pOgLQ&s=FH9X-_JlV-Srh2QK2L7xe_MnD0ZbGMjKCjFYKFHU4XE&e=>
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The statute particularly states the oath is before "some person authorized to administer oaths." A notary or a judicial officer are individuals who can administer the oath. (RCW 42.45.080<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__app.leg.wa.gov_RCW_default.aspx-3Fcite-3D42.45.080&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=z5lwBaVm9sc2C54yY_FPxTMT_RJMPLISAW_7ZYYYxoA&m=Aa5SluWgbEEer9UAztpKAfResYrAWZlPn-LGV7pOgLQ&s=Wef1V5PCLKmXpxYwe0KDZNavHDyANunQZI9V8aJPAkw&e=>).  If anyone else found a way to use a declaration instead, I am all ears.

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I would like to know the answer to this generally as well. It would be much easier to file declarations instead of notarized oaths.

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Dear Listmates:

Should I assume, since no one has responded, that the court (specifically the Spokane county court) will not allow the use of a Declaration form of Oath of PR in connection with obtaining Letters Testamentary or Letters of Administration?

Jeanne

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Subject: [WSBAPT] Oath of PR v. Declaration of PR

Dear Listmates:

I recall back maybe a year or more ago, chatter on the list serve about using a Declaration of PR rather than an Oath that requires a Notary.  My recollection is that some of you are using the Declaration format and have not had any issues.  None of those responses, however, were from Spokane County.

I'm wondering if anyone has been successfully using a Declaration of PR format in Spokane County successfully, and if so if you would mind sharing with me the form you used.  I want to practice social distancing by not making my clients come into the office or go anywhere just to get a notary acknowledgement on the Oath.

Thanks for your help - and stay safe out there.

Jeanne J. Dawes
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