[WSBAPT] Thurston County local practice questions

[Eric Nelsen]

Thanks again-that link re bench copies was what I was thinking of-it says "If electronically filing documents, parties may utilize the service of the Clerk's Office for a fee." Is that not for bench copies?

Sincerely,

Eric

Eric C. Nelsen
Sayre Law Offices, PLLC
1417 31st Ave South
Seattle WA 98144-3909
206-625-0092
eric at sayrelawoffices.com

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Eric,

Yes, you have to bring the prepared Letter to the Clerk; they don't fill them out any longer. Bench copies are delivered to Court Administration at the FJC and are not done electronically. I wish they were filed electronically.
https://www.thurstoncountywa.gov/sc/Pages/judges-copies.aspx

Regards, Tom



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Thank you Tom! So I am the one who fills out the Letters, and then I bring that to the clerk (along with Order and oath)? In King County I just present order and oath to the clerk and the clerk creates the Letters.

Also, you send paper bench copies? Have you decided not to use the clerk's service for that via e-filing, or am I just wrong that it's even an option?

Sincerely,

Eric

Eric C. Nelsen
Sayre Law Offices, PLLC
1417 31st Ave South
Seattle WA 98144-3909
206-625-0092
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Hi Eric,

Looks like you have it figured out. You can have a legal messenger take the bench copies to the clerk; that's what we do. We use ABC Legal Messengers.

You just leave the upper left hand corner hearing blank when the hearing isn't set yet. I would us the attached notice of hearing to send to the SS.

Then take the other attached form filled out with you and $5.00 for each Letters of Administration you want to take with you after the hearing. You can take the Order with you from the Commissioner's courtroom down to the Clerk's office and if you haven't filed the Oath, make sure to bring a signed version with you.

Sincerely,

Tom

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Subject: [WSBAPT] Thurston County local practice questions

I will be filing a petition to start a probate in Thurston County for the first time. Intestate probate, and I will need to give notice to the surviving spouse.

After poking around and reviewing local rules and following several rabbit holes of links on the court website I think I have tentatively concluded:

It looks like probate procedure is largely handled under LSPR 94.00, 94.03B, 94.03C, and 98.04;
I can e-file my documents to initiate the case, so I don't need to worry about which courthouse to initially file at under LSPR 94.00(c)(2);
I need to set the hearing at the Family and Juvenile Court (FJC) location (2801 32nd Avenue SW, Tumwater 98501)  rather than the main campus courthouse (2000 Lakeridge Dr SW, Building 2, Olympia) per LCR 77(o)(1)(B), LSPR 94.00(a)(4), and LSPR 94.00(c)(1);
Filed documents must have the hearing date/time and the assigned judge in the upper left corner on the first page, per LCR 10(d)(4);
I have to provide judge copies, per LCR 5(k), on paper, at least 6 court days before the hearing per LCR 7, and it looks like I can have the Clerk's office do that for me<https://www.thurstoncountywa.gov/sc/Pages/judges-copies.aspx>;
Thurston County does not appear to have any special notice requirement so I can just give the surviving spouse the 10-day notice specified in RCW 11.28.131<https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28.131> (plus three days for mailing);
The Notice of Hearing<https://www.co.thurston.wa.us/clerk/Forms/notice-of-hearing-fjc-commissioners-2019-06-03.pdf> appears to limit me to having the hearing only on a Friday at 2:00 PM and only before a Commissioner at FJC;
I need to make sure there's room on the hearing date I select, using the availability chart<http://tcwebservices.co.thurston.wa.us/OdyOpenSeats/reports/CAL-Open%20Seats%2034%20FJC.pdf>.

One immediate question:

For my initial documents - petition and so forth - I probably will not have a hearing date/time figured out. Will my documents get bounced if I leave the upper left corner blank, or should I put something like "no hearing date set" in the corner?

Any comments, corrections, helpful tips from Thurston County practitioners would be gratefully accepted. Happy new year everyone--

Sincerely,

Eric

Eric C. Nelsen
Sayre Law Offices, PLLC
1417 31st Ave South
Seattle WA 98144-3909
206-625-0092
eric at sayrelawoffices.com<mailto:eric at sayrelawoffices.com>

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