[WSBAPT] Guardianship for California Minor to Collect Inherited IRAs

Marsha Hudson marsha at griffyn.us
Wed Nov 28 10:24:07 PST 2018


How do you / can you do that without opening a separate cause number - California case? - so that the probate can be closed? 

Plese excus the brevite and any tipoes.  This emale was sent from Marsha's stoopid iPhone.

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> On Nov 28, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Marcus Fry <mfry at lyon-law.com> wrote:
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> You can get a court order that blocks UTMA withdrawals without court approval with the caveat in the order that allows the custodian to make investment decisions, such as buying and selling, with the funds in the account.  Great way to protect the account while also avoiding the expense of a third party.   
>  
> Marcus J. Fry
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Candace Wilkerson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:40 AM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Guardianship for California Minor to Collect Inherited IRAs
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> Oh, I see.  You’re right, not a good idea if there is concern about Mom.  The custodial accounts don’t generally offer much protection.
>  
> Candace
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Elizabeth Bateman
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:39 PM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Guardianship for California Minor to Collect Inherited IRAs
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> Thanks, Candace.  The estate isn't the beneficiary (the kid was specifically designated), so I don't think I have any authority to claim the accounts.  There's also some concern that we don't want mom to have access to the funds... Elizabeth 
>  
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 1:40 PM Candace Wilkerson <cwilkerson at wongfleming.com> wrote:
> Elizabeth,
>  
> Couldn’t you, as PR, obtain the funds from the two accounts and then transfer them to the child via UGMA/UTMA with the child’s parent as custodian of the accounts?  CA has a variation of UTMA (called “CUTMA”) that should work.
>  
> Let me know if I can help.  Although I’ve never done this in CA, I am licensed in CA.
>  
> Candace Wilkerson
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Elizabeth Bateman
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:09 PM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: [WSBAPT] Guardianship for California Minor to Collect Inherited IRAs
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> Sorry if this is duplicative--tried to send this out yesterday, but I don't think it went through.  Either that, or had no takers, lol.  
>  
> I am the PR of a King County intestate estate where the intestate heir is a minor and a resident of California.  A guardian will be necessary to claim two small IRA accounts (less than $40k), of which the minor is the named beneficiary.  I am of the opinion that the King County Superior Court does not have jurisdiction over the California child sufficient to appoint a guardian for him here.  Can someone prove me wrong?  Does the child's parent have any authority to consent to the King County court's jurisdiction over her teenage child?  If so, what is that authority?  
>  
> And practically, is it even feasible for the Court to appoint a person or entity in WA as guardian for an individual in another state?    
>  
> In the alternative, can someone recommend a guardianship attorney in or near Alameda County, CA?
>  
> Thanks in advance for your input.  
>  
> Elizabeth
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