[WSBAPT] Deed of PR - need to include easements?

Mike Winslow mike at winslegal.com
Thu Mar 29 13:29:00 PDT 2018


While I agree with Eric’s analysis, in practice I believe title will want the spouse to sign the deed in their individual capacity too.
 
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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Eric Nelsen
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Deed of PR - need to include easements?
 
Technically the estate of the first spouse to die has jurisdiction over the entirety of community property, so even though the surviving spouse has a community interest, the Estate is the sole seller and is wholly exempt from Form 17 disclosures per RCW 64.06.010(6) <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.06.010> . (This is part of the logic that the marital community terminates at death of a spouse, and therefore all community debts, assets, etc. must be administered as part of the probate administration.) Magee v. Big Bend Land Co., 51 Wash. 406, 408, 99 P. 16 (1909) (administration of first spouse's estate had jurisdiction and authority to sell the entire community real property).
 
Sincerely,
 
Eric
 
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I agree about the lack of necessity for making warranties, absent of course actual knowledge your client may have about the property. 
 
If the wife is on title now though and “inheriting” her spouse’s community interest, then I still think she would need to disclose.
 
Have you talked with a title company?  I would get one on board now to pull title and be there to insure the transfer to the future buyer.
 
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Subject: [WSBAPT] Deed of PR - need to include easements?
 
Have you considered if they do not transfer now but sell from Probate, they do not have to fill out form 17 - warranties?  
 

 
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Deed of PR - need to include easements?
From: Felicia Value <felicia at skagitprobate.com>
Date: Thu, March 29, 2018 8:34 am
To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
 
Well,  you can always punt by adding,  "Subject to all easements,  covenants,  codes and restrictions of record."  But I'd defer to someone like Mike Winslow for a real answer.
 
On 3/28/2018 7:46 PM, Brent Williams-Ruth wrote:
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I am doing my first Deed of PR transfer for a home that is in a planned community. The title report included 3 pages of easements from the original development back in 1990. I know that it not part of the legal description, but I am curious as to whether they need to be included as, say an Exhibit, to show the continuity of the easement. The property is being inherited by the surviving spouse who will then be listing for sale. 
 
Appreciate the guidance on that!
 
Thanks,
 
Brent
 
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