[WSBAPT] Referral for quick EP house call

Wed Aug 17 13:11:03 PDT 2016

Have a potential client looking for an attorney to make a somewhat urgent house call in Burien to help with a will for woman with young children now on hospice. Anyone close by interested in the referral?

Heather

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Jane Bitz
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] House co-owner dies intestate

I don’t think you need 10 separate quit claim deeds, just attach all signatures to one deed. Put all names needed on page 1 as grantors and your client as grantee. Send out to all the heirs and file for $73 + $10 = $83

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Eric Nelsen
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] House co-owner dies intestate

I think it's not a "clear title" because it is a transfer of a legal inherited interest. It's also 10 deeds, which is probably $800+ in recording charges.

Logistically, I'd say a TEDRA agreement is easier, though now as I think it further through, the Agreement would have to have language in it amounting to a quitclaim from each party to the co-owner son, and each signature should have a notary acknowledgment. Then when it's filed with the Court it becomes effective as a Court order. The TEDRA Agreement will have to function more or less as a Decree of Distribution of the real property.

Heather also may be right, that a title company might require an affidavit of lack of probate as well – though I think that could just be signed by the co-owner son.

Sincerely,

Eric

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Paul Neumiller
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] House co-owner dies intestate

I must be missing something here because, if you have everyone’s agreement and they are willing to sign something, then why not just get quitclaim deeds from everyone stating that the purpose is to “clear title” and be done with it?

From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of MK Henderson
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] House co-owner dies intestate

I think following along with Eric's suggestion, you have your client appointed PR, sign off on agreement re: TEDRA, PR files deed as PR for the estate grantor to PR as self grantee and in accordance with TEDRA agreement.  Close estate.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Lisa Schuchman <lisa at lisaschuchman.com<mailto:lisa at lisaschuchman.com>> wrote:
Hi, again,

Yesterday I met with the clients described below.  They think that getting a signed agreement is very possible.  The next step is to figure out the step in between a TEDRA order (that the property belongs to the son) and an actual clearing of title.  What would the order have to include to convince a title company to clear title to the co-owner son?  I appreciate your thoughts.

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>] On Behalf Of Lisa Schuchman
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 11:16 AM
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Subject: [WSBAPT] House co-owner dies intestate

In 1999 X bought a house with his son as TIC.  The deed specifies that X’s share is his separate property.  The son lives in the house and has paid all mortgage payments, taxes, etc.
In 2001 X died intestate.  He left 10 adult children and his wife, who is not their mother.  No probate.
In 2016, the co-owner son wants to refinance his mortgage and needs to clear title.
Most of his siblings are available and would agree that the house is his.  One sibling is non-responsive/refusing/reluctant.  Another sibling is in another country and not reachable (so far).
I believe that if the siblings and the wife all agree we could do a TEDRA agreement.  If they don’t all sign on, what???  I’m thinking a quiet title?  Help?

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