[WSBAPT] Estate Planning for the Rapture

Wed Jul 8 19:35:52 PDT 2015

Come on Kate you can do it!!!!

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Kate Szurek <kate at skagitlaw.com> wrote:

>  She’s a very young thing.  Has only barely made it into her 50s, I
> believe.
>
>
>
> If I were as young as she, I’d be adding a goofy-faced emoticon right now
> . . .
>
>
>
> Kate
>
>
>
> *From:* wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:
> wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Stuen
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:33 PM
>
> *To:* 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBAPT] Estate Planning for the Rapture
>
>
>
> Looks guilty of flaunting technological ability.  Creates doubt about the
> seniority of the author.
>
> Luditely yours, Tom
>
>
>
> *From:* wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [
> mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>] *On Behalf Of *Felicia Value,
> Attorney at Law
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:11 PM
> *To:* WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBAPT] Estate Planning for the Rapture
>
>
>
> It warms my heart to see attorneys taking a deep breath and diving into
> solve this client’s puzzle.  I [image: Red heart]lawyers.
>
>
>
> *From:* John J. Sullivan <sullaw at comcast.net>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2015 12:45 PM
>
> *To:* WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBAPT] Estate Planning for the Rapture
>
>
>
> Leave it in trust with a reversion to the grantors if they return within
> the 8 year period?
>
>
>
> John Sullivan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Jim Doran <jim at doranlegal.com> wrote:
>
>  This is one for the books.
>
>
>
> Hallelujah!
>
>
>
> James R. Doran
>
> Attorney at Law
>
> 100 E. Pine Street – Suite 205
>
> Bellingham, WA 98225
>
> (360)393-9506
>
> jim at doranlegal.com
>
> www.doranlegal.com
>
>
>
> *From:* wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [
> mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>] *On Behalf Of *Dan J. Cadagan III
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2015 10:23 AM
> *To:* 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBAPT] Estate Planning for the Rapture
>
>
>
> But the REAL question for the client is, who are they going to name in
> their will to be the PR, or in their DPA to be their A/F?  It will need to
> be someone they think is going to be left behind, who is not a good enough
> person to go on this Rapture cruise; i.e., some scuzball.  Or it could be
> an attorney, because I’m sure that, in their opinion, there isn’t a
> snowball’s chance in hell that any of us attorneys are going to heaven on
> this cruise.  Interesting dilemma.
>
>
>
> *Dan J. Cadagan III*
>
> Attorney at Law
>
> Spokane, WA
>
> 1-509-744-3440
>
> Dan at CadaganLaw.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [
> mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>] *On Behalf Of *Krista MacLaren
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2015 9:48 AM
> *To:* wsba probate & trust
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBAPT] Estate Planning for the Rapture
>
>
>
> As a practical matter, would the person left behind to deal with the
> clients’ property be expected to maintain their home in its vacant state
> for a full 8 years?  I guess this would be a situation where there is no
> proof of death, but it seems like it would be important for the client to
> realize that this may cause them to come back to a bankrupt estate.
>
>
>
> Krista MacLaren
> Attorney at Law
> Northgate Executive Center II
> 9725 3rd Ave NE, Suite 600
> Seattle WA 98115
> (206) 523-6116
>
>
>
> Please note, as with most email providers, Mac does not encrypt email
> messages. Accordingly, the confidentiality of messages sent to this address
> cannot be assured. This e-mail is intended for viewing only by the
> individual or entity to whom its content is addressed, and it may contain
> confidential or
> privileged information. If you received this email in error, please honor
> the privacy of the intended recipient: reply to the sender regarding the
> error and delete the message.
>
>
>
>  On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Heather deVrieze <heatherd at westseattlelaw.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Had a client today inform me that he believed that the Rapture would soon
> be upon us (in the next year or three) and that he and his wife would
> suddenly just be missing, along with many of their beneficiaries and
> designated fiduciaries. Following the scriptures they would return to earth
> after its 7 years of trials and tribulations and that he wouldn’t want any
> presumption of death to distribute all of his assets to the remaining
> (non-raptured) beneficiaries in that time frame.
>
>
>
> Wanting to respect the client despite any of my own personal views of his
> position, I was pondering perhaps including a provision in the POA and in
> the Will that might require an 8 year waiting period, instead of the 5 year
> presumption under 11.80.080, before distributing the estate. (In the event
> that I am missing and there is no physical proof of my death, I direct my
> Personal Representative/Attorney-in-fact to wait a period of at least 8
> years from the date that I went missing before administering my estate and
> distributing it under 11.80.080.)
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> Heather
>
>
>
>
>
> Heather S. de Vrieze
> *Attorney-at-Law*
>
> *<image001.jpg>*
>
> 3909 California Avenue SW
>
> Seattle, WA 98116-3705
>
> (206)938-5500
>
> heatherd at westseattlelaw.com
>
> www.westseattlelaw.com
>
>
>
> *Click here to connect with de Vrieze | Carney on Facebook:   *
> *<image002.png>* <https://www.facebook.com/DeVriezeCarney>
>
>
>
> CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED. This e-mail message may contain legally
> privileged and/or confidential information.  If you have received this
> e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies
> of this e-mail message and any attachment.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> WSBAPT mailing list
> WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com
> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt
>
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
> WSBAPT mailing list
> WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com
> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> WSBAPT mailing list
> WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com
> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt
>
> _______________________________________________
> WSBAPT mailing list
> WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com
> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt
>

-- 
*************************************************
Jayne Marsh Gilbert
Gilbert and Gilbert Lawyers, PS
(360) 336-9515
*************************************************
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20150708/5d8753e5/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.png
Type: image/png
Size: 1070 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20150708/5d8753e5/image001.png>