[WSBAPT] Estate Planning for the Rapture

Wed Jul 8 16:11:28 PDT 2015

It warms my heart to see attorneys taking a deep breath and diving into solve this client’s puzzle.  I  lawyers.

From: John J. Sullivan 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 12:45 PM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv 
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Leave it in trust with a reversion to the grantors if they return within the 8 year period? 

John Sullivan

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On Jul 8, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Jim Doran <jim at doranlegal.com> wrote:

  This is one for the books.

  Hallelujah!

  James R. Doran

  Attorney at Law

  100 E. Pine Street – Suite 205

  Bellingham, WA 98225

  (360)393-9506

  jim at doranlegal.com

  www.doranlegal.com

  From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Dan J. Cadagan III
  Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 10:23 AM
  To: 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'
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  But the REAL question for the client is, who are they going to name in their will to be the PR, or in their DPA to be their A/F?  It will need to be someone they think is going to be left behind, who is not a good enough person to go on this Rapture cruise; i.e., some scuzball.  Or it could be an attorney, because I’m sure that, in their opinion, there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that any of us attorneys are going to heaven on this cruise.  Interesting dilemma.  

  Dan J. Cadagan III

  Attorney at Law

  Spokane, WA

  1-509-744-3440

  Dan at CadaganLaw.com

  From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Krista MacLaren
  Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 9:48 AM
  To: wsba probate & trust
  Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Estate Planning for the Rapture

  As a practical matter, would the person left behind to deal with the clients’ property be expected to maintain their home in its vacant state for a full 8 years?  I guess this would be a situation where there is no proof of death, but it seems like it would be important for the client to realize that this may cause them to come back to a bankrupt estate.  

  Krista MacLaren
  Attorney at Law
  Northgate Executive Center II
  9725 3rd Ave NE, Suite 600
  Seattle WA 98115
  (206) 523-6116

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    On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Heather deVrieze <heatherd at westseattlelaw.com> wrote:

    Had a client today inform me that he believed that the Rapture would soon be upon us (in the next year or three) and that he and his wife would suddenly just be missing, along with many of their beneficiaries and designated fiduciaries. Following the scriptures they would return to earth after its 7 years of trials and tribulations and that he wouldn’t want any presumption of death to distribute all of his assets to the remaining (non-raptured) beneficiaries in that time frame. 

    Wanting to respect the client despite any of my own personal views of his position, I was pondering perhaps including a provision in the POA and in the Will that might require an 8 year waiting period, instead of the 5 year presumption under 11.80.080, before distributing the estate. (In the event that I am missing and there is no physical proof of my death, I direct my Personal Representative/Attorney-in-fact to wait a period of at least 8 years from the date that I went missing before administering my estate and distributing it under 11.80.080.)

    Thoughts?

    Heather

    Heather S. de Vrieze
    Attorney-at-Law

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    3909 California Avenue SW

    Seattle, WA 98116-3705                          

    (206)938-5500 

    heatherd at westseattlelaw.com 

    www.westseattlelaw.com 

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