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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=sullaw@comcast.net
href="mailto:sullaw@comcast.net">John J. Sullivan</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 08, 2015 12:45 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com
href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] Estate Planning for the
Rapture</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Leave it in trust with a reversion to the grantors if they return within
the 8 year period? </DIV>
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<DIV>John Sullivan<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Jul 8, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Jim Doran <<A
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #1f497d">This is one
for the books.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Hallelujah!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #1f497d">James R.
Doran<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Attorney at
Law<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d">100 E. Pine
Street – Suite 205<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Bellingham,
WA 98225<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d">(360)393-9506<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> <A
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dan J. Cadagan III<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 8, 2015
10:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [WSBAPT] Estate Planning for the Rapture<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">But the REAL question for the
client is, who are they going to name in their will to be the PR, or in their
DPA to be their A/F? It will need to be someone they think is going to
be left behind, who is not a good enough person to go on this Rapture cruise;
i.e., some scuzball. Or it could be an attorney, because I’m sure that,
in their opinion, there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that any of us
attorneys are going to heaven on this cruise. Interesting dilemma.
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<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Dan J. Cadagan
III<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Attorney at
Law<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Spokane,
WA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>1-509-744-3440<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Krista MacLaren<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 08, 2015
9:48 AM<BR><B>To:</B> wsba probate & trust<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT]
Estate Planning for the Rapture<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>As a practical matter, would the person left behind to deal
with the clients’ property be expected to maintain their home in its vacant
state for a full 8 years? I guess this would be a situation where there
is no proof of death, but it seems like it would be important for the client
to realize that this may cause them to come back to a bankrupt estate.
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif; COLOR: black'>Krista
MacLaren<BR>Attorney at Law<BR>Northgate Executive Center II<BR>9725 3rd Ave
NE, Suite 600<BR>Seattle WA 98115<BR>(206)
523-6116<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Heather deVrieze <<A
href="mailto:heatherd@westseattlelaw.com">heatherd@westseattlelaw.com</A>>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Had a client today inform me that he believed that the
Rapture would soon be upon us (in the next year or three) and that he and
his wife would suddenly just be missing, along with many of their
beneficiaries and designated fiduciaries. Following the scriptures they
would return to earth after its 7 years of trials and tribulations and that
he wouldn’t want any presumption of death to distribute all of his assets to
the remaining (non-raptured) beneficiaries in that time frame.
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<P class=MsoNormal>Wanting to respect the client despite any of my own
personal views of his position, I was pondering perhaps including a
provision in the POA and in the Will that might require an 8 year waiting
period, instead of the 5 year presumption under 11.80.080, before
distributing the estate. (In the event that I am missing and there is no
physical proof of my death, I direct my Personal
Representative/Attorney-in-fact to wait a period of at least 8 years from
the date that I went missing before administering my estate and distributing
it under 11.80.080.)<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></P>
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