[WSBAPT] Bank Behaving Badly - B of A
Richard Wills
richardwills at washington-probate.com
Mon Apr 27 13:46:01 PDT 2015
*Yup, that's been my experience with both BECU & BofA. When I get
really, really frustrated, I do a (& get & serve the Order for the)
Motion for Contempt. That typically gets results, but, geez, at what
cost & inconvenience!!!** I've got numbers of other stories about both
BECU & BofA, of which I won't bore you. If you want to talk to a real
BofA non-friend, call Rob Wilson-Hoss, in Shelton, who can give you a
mouthful.**You think you have problems with BofA, zounds!!!** (Not to
imply that your problems are trivial, but Rob's are monumental.)*
On 4/26/2015 2:47 PM, James B. Dolan wrote:
>
> Colleagues:
>
> I recently encountered the following situation in two probate matters.
>
> 1.Client is appointed as Administrator of Deceased’s estate. Deceased
> had accounts at two banks (Wells Fargo and Bank of America) and a
> credit union (BECU). On March 31, Administrator went to all three
> institutions with a Certificate of Death, certified Order Appointing,
> and certified Letters of Administration. She attempted to close out
> the three modest accounts and marshal the funds in order to place them
> in an estate account. Wells Fargo and BECU gave her the money and
> closed the accounts. Bank of America stated they need a “Letter of
> Instructions” and then need to “send everything to legal” for review
> before giving her the funds in Decedent’s account. Many telephone
> calls and visits to the bank later, as of last Friday, May 24, she
> still does not have the money and the account is still open.
>
> 2.Client is appointed as PR of his deceased brother’s estate.
> Brother’s Will intends for all of his assets to be placed into trust
> for benefit of his minor daughter, of which PR is also trustee.
> Decedent had four accounts at financial institutions – two of them are
> POD to the trust and two of them (Bank of America and Carpenter’s
> Trust – pension) are POD directly to minor child. For a number of
> reasons, we petitioned court to direct the two institutions with
> accounts POD (Bank of America and Carpenter’s Trust – pension)
> directly to minor to instead deliver the funds to trustee of the minor
> trust. We followed all relevant RCWs, including summons per TEDRA and
> also specific notice to Bank of America and Carpenter’s Trust per
> 11.11.050. Based on dealing with Bank of America in scenario number 1
> above, I saw this coming so in my order, the Court specifically
> directed Bank of America to “immediately and without delay, deliver
> all assets in [Decedent’s name and account numbers] to PR / Trustee.
> Failure to promptly comply with this order shall be considered
> contempt of court.” PR went to Bank of America, for the second time,
> with certified Order Appointing, Letters Testamentary, Certificate of
> Death, and certified copy of the order we had just entered, and was
> told by bank manager that “we need to send this to legal, we will get
> back to you.”
>
> It appears that B of A has a new policy, that no other banks or credit
> unions have to my knowledge, that being appointed PR and appearing at
> the bank with all of the necessary documents is not, in their view,
> sufficient, so they need to “send it to legal.” My jaded view is that
> the bank, by delaying the withdrawal of money from the accounts
> previously owned by Decedents, gets to continue to use the money to
> collect interest – although each account in and of itself is probably
> not worth very much, when you think of the thousands of accounts from
> thousands of Decedents that are being treated this way, those pennies
> add up (/see/ the movie Office Space).
>
> At any rate, the client in scenario number 1 above has waited three
> weeks, the bank manager in scenario number 2 above is simply blowing
> off a court order (no doubt because she is simply following the bank
> directive).
>
> Before I gulp down a large Starbucks and begin drafting Motion and
> Order to Show Cause for Contempt (does that even make sense?) and get
> an Order Shortening Time and have both managers personally served, I
> thought I might check in with my more experienced, and perhaps more
> rational, and certainly more mature, colleagues. Is this finally a
> chance to strike back at the empire or am I tilting at windmills? Any
> other ideas?
>
> Jim Dolan
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