[WSBAPT] UK Citizens w/ US Real Estate

Evan O. Thomas III eot3 at juno.com
Tue Nov 11 14:49:27 PST 2014


You might consider transferring the 
residence into an LLC and then having 
your client give the LLC units, which 
constitute personal property.

Chip

On 11/11/2014 2:10 PM, Lewis, Amy C. wrote:
>
> You might also want to look into the 
> estate tax treatment and any available 
> treaties.  Remember the US estate tax 
> exemption is only $60,000 for a 
> non-resident alien.  Most, if not all, 
> of the treaties provide that US 
> gift/estate tax applies to US real 
> property.
>
> I am currently representing a citizen 
> of the Netherlands who wants to give a 
> US residence to a family member.  We 
> are looking into whether the client 
> can give a cash gift (which will not 
> be subject to US gift tax and 
> qualifies for a temporary exemption 
> under Dutch law) which the family 
> member can use to purchase the 
> residence.  In our case the 
> Netherlands treaty does not 
> specifically address gift tax, only 
> estate tax, but many of the newer 
> treaties address both.
>
> Amy C. Lewis, Attorney
>
> ESTATE PLANNING & PROBATE
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> *From:*wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com 
> [mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com] 
> *On Behalf Of *John J. Sullivan
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:01 PM
> *To:* wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
> *Cc:* WSB Listserv
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBAPT] UK Citizens w/ 
> US Real Estate
>
> Felicia:
>
> This might be a situation where one of 
> those new TOD deeds might come in handy
>
> Otherwise I would place it in a single 
> purpose RLT, or a WA C
>
> John Sullivan
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>
> On Nov 11, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Felicia 
> Value, Attorney at Law 
> <felicia at skagitprobate.com 
> <mailto:felicia at skagitprobate.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello Colleagues:
>
>     I have a question on behalf of
>     some friends. They are UK citizens
>     with their primary residence in
>     the UK. They own some property in
>     the US that they want to leave to
>     their daughter.  Do they need a US
>     Will to do that? Is there some
>     sort of ancillary proceeding that
>     you open in the US to administer
>     the property, even if the primary
>     probate proceeding is in the UK? 
>     I suppose they could add the
>     daughter to the title as a
>     co-owner with right of
>     survivorship, but for exposure
>     reasons I'm never crazy about that
>     idea. Should I tell them to
>     consult US counsel,  or is this
>     really simple and can just be
>     dealt with easily in the
>     administration of the UK Will?
>
>     I will forward your responses
>     directly to my friends. Thanks for
>     any thoughts.
>
>     Sincerely,
>
>     Felicia Value
>     Attorney at Law
>     PO Box 578/116 North Third Street
>     La Conner, WA 98257
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