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Jennifer Rydberg
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From: "Karen E. Boxx" <kboxx at uw.edu>
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http://www.courts.wa.gov/opinions/pdf/696084.pdf
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Professor Karen E. Boxx
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Box 353020
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From: "Sam Furgason" <sam at furgasons.com>
Subject: RE: [WSBAPT] new TEDRA case: Estate of Bernard
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 21:23:48 -0700
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Thanks, Karen. I read the opinion. I did not, and still do not, understand
why the TEDRA agreement made court order had anything to do with these
particular parties. Absent a showing of being intended beneficiaries of
the
TEDRA provisions, none of them had any basis for claiming to be entitled
to
enforce the provisions of the agreement/order. In my opinion, the warring
parties had no standing to litigate the TEDRA agreement issue. It was an
agreement/order between Tom and James only, and without it Tom could have
made the same modifications to his will and trust as he made with James's
consent. I don't see how the other parties could base any claims on
violation of that order, as they were not parties to it. As the court
pointed out, competence and undue influence, potential bases for setting
aside the will, trust, codicil or amendment, were not before it. Acting as
the trial judge, or as an appellate judge, I would have dismissed the
TEDRA
agreement based claims for lack of standing, in about two paragraphs. This
is a precedent for permitting unaffected parties to enforce a private
TEDRA
agreement once it becomes an order which I would prefer had not been
propounded.
S
From: wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com
[mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Karen E. Boxx
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 12:32 PM
To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
Subject: [WSBAPT] new TEDRA case: Estate of Bernard
http://www.courts.wa.gov/opinions/pdf/696084.pdf
in case you missed it..
Professor Karen E. Boxx
University of Washington School of Law
Box 353020
Seattle, WA 98195-3020
206.616.3856
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks, Karen. I =
read the opinion. I did not, and still do not, understand why the TEDRA =
agreement made court order had anything to do with these particular =
parties. Absent a showing of being intended beneficiaries of the TEDRA =
provisions, none of them had any basis for claiming to be entitled to =
enforce the provisions of the agreement/order. In my opinion, the =
warring
parties had no standing to litigate the TEDRA agreement issue. = It was an
agreement/order between Tom and James only, and without it Tom = could
have
made the same modifications to his will and trust as he made = with
James’s consent. I don’t see how the other parties = could
base
any claims on violation of that order, as they were not = parties to it.
As
the court pointed out, competence and undue influence, = potential bases
for
setting aside the will, trust, codicil or amendment, = were not before it.
Acting as the trial judge, or as an appellate judge, = I would have
dismissed the TEDRA agreement based claims for lack of = standing, in
about
two paragraphs. This is a precedent for permitting = unaffected parties to
enforce a private TEDRA agreement once it becomes = an order which I would
prefer had not been propounded. = <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>S =
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[mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karen E. =
Boxx<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 26, 2014 12:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] new TEDRA case: =
Estate of Bernard<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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