[Vision2020] 8-16-21 Realclimate.org Comments Section Re: The IPCC Sixth Assessment Report

[Ted Moffett]

I usually don't take comment sections on articles on the Internet very
seriously.  But this comment was so right on the mark regarding especially
the responsibility for causing global warming due to cumulative greenhouse
gas emissions falling on the early to industrialize nations in Europe and
the USA, I'll make an exception.  When considering total
cumulative greenhouse gas emissions, even at this date in 2021, the USA is
more culpable than China.  When considering the per capita greenhouse gas
emissions between China and the USA, we are even far more personally
responsible for global warming than China!

A critical section from the comment copied in below:

"Therefore, were Total Cumulative CO2e data used to determine Carbon
Tariffs the
impost upon USA exports would be far greater than every other nation on
Earth.

Which, in fact, is precisely the kind of Equity Action which needs to be
done to help drive the world’s economic system toward Sustainability as per
the stated UN goals.

The mega-wealthy nations today have accumulated their riches by never
having to pay for their Cumulative GHG Emissions or the damage they caused
and continue to cause."

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Reality Check says

16 AUG 2021 AT 10:42 PM
<https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2021/08/the-ipcc-sixth-assessment-report/#comment-794832>

@carl @guille as mentioned in my comment above:
Per Capita CO2e Emissions in 2019
China = 10.1 tons/capita
OECD = 10.5 tons/capita
USA = 17.6 tons/capita
ref https://rhg.com/research/chinas-emissions-surpass-developed-countries/

If a Carbon Tariff on imports from China was applied the outcome would
likely be a Carbon Tariff on Imports from the USA by China of at least 1.76
times higher.

Leading to equally higher Carbon Tariffs being placed on USA imports and
services by the OECD, the EU especially, and eventually the rest of the
world. A very good and fair equitable thing to happen in my view.
See my recent comment 5 Aug:
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2021/07/forced-responses-july-2021/comment-page-10/#comment-793803

It’s really easy to point fingers at others while ignoring one’s own
nation’s culpability and the global reality.
For example, James Hansen et al emphasize in their work, the CO2e Emissions
problem is all about the Cumulative amount. It is not about what happened
in one nation last week.

Since 1750, the 38 members of the OECD bloc have emitted four times more
CO2 on a cumulative basis than China (Figure 4) GRAPH
https://rhg.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Figure-4.png

Since 1800, the less populated USA has emitted more total CO2e on a
cumulative basis than China despite a huge population difference – see
documented scientific evidence:
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/9/1/014010/meta

Therefore, were Total Cumulative CO2e data used to determine Carbon Tariffs the
impost upon USA exports would be far greater than every other nation on
Earth.

Which, in fact, is precisely the kind of Equity Action which needs to be
done to help drive the world’s economic system toward Sustainability as per
the stated UN goals.

The mega-wealthy nations today have accumulated their riches by never
having to pay for their Cumulative GHG Emissions or the damage they caused
and continue to cause.

Therefore, it is only natural justice the American people today are forced
to pay Reparations for the cumulative environmental damage their country’s
CO2e GHG emissions have done and is still doing to the world.

Behind today’s extreme weather events is the massive multi-century
Cumulative Emissions of a very small number of nations – the largest
contributor being the USA. The UK is the highest Per Capita cumulative
contributor of all.

Germany and Japan paid Reparations for WW2 for obvious reasons. Starting
with the USA the worst polluters (less than 20 nations including China)
need to pay Reparations to other countries for the global damages and
deaths they have caused by their nations GHG Emissions contribution.

It appears to me the UNFCCC, the COP system and the IPCC have all been
designed, setup, and continue to operate by the most powerful wealthiest
nations in the world to distract away from this level of direct
accountability for past actions being placed upon those countries who have
contributed most to the current Climate, Environmental, and Economic crises.

And yet it is their privileged citizens today, everyone on this forum, who
have benefited the most as a direct result of the last two centuries’
accumulated wealth and power on back of Fossil Fuels use, Land clearing,
ecological destruction resulting in global pollution, environmental damages
and now the more serious deadly impacts of climate change this century.

Especially the colonialists! It is way past time to pay the Piper, isn’t it?

Simply pointing fingers at China because the 1.4 billion people there have
built an economic miracle the last 2 decades is short-sighted, illogical,
irrational, and fundamentally anti-science.
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