[Vision2020] Hangin' is too good for him; just let him bleed slowly

[Sunil Ramalingam]

Maybe we should ask if this is the way to treat anyone.

Sunil
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hangin' is too good for him; just let him bleed slowly

A worse punishment I believe to be worse than bleeding slowly . . . would be to put Trump in solitary confinement for the rest of his life . . . absolutelyNO HUMAN INTERACTION.  A jail guard would place Trump’s meals in a slider connected to Trump’s cell.

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Tom Hansen
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On Mar 10, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Nicholas Gier <ngier006 at gmail.com<mailto:ngier006 at gmail.com>> wrote:

>From the New Yorker, by Leo Vidal

 The New Yorker suggests that when dealing with Trump, Democrats take their cue from the way the good guys often dealt with villains in old movie westerns. They would often say “Hanging’s too good for him” when dealing with an especially heinous bad guy, and that could apply to our current president:


“In this case, impeachment is seen as too rarefied, too technical a proceeding to end Trumpism. Trump should be defeated at the polls; ejecting him in any other way provides too many opportunities for after-the-fact stab-in-the-back recriminations, and will only further convince his base that the ‘deep state’ conspired against him.”

The New Yorker goes on to point out that Trump — and his family — are facing multiple investigations that will continue to hurt him at the polls. And, while going through the motions of impeachment might make some Democrats feel good, it also might help the president by allowing him to play the victim (which he is very good at).

Despite Support for Impeaching Trump, Democrats Will Be Better Off Waiting

Lately we have seen increasing support for impeachment in public opinion polls,<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicususa.com%2F2019%2F03%2F06%2Fmichael-cohen-trump-impeachment.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C03a62d8fb75c4e88529f08d6a5bb0bb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636878620104548828&sdata=%2B2oMzQ8Kb5sv89l4ov9WxghdC1OHElsNZVc3g2utF80%3D&reserved=0> especially those taken after Michael Cohen’s testimony before Congress.

Many Democrats in Congress don’t want to wait for the Mueller report<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicususa.com%2F2019%2F03%2F09%2Fwaters-democrats-mueller-report-impeachment.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C03a62d8fb75c4e88529f08d6a5bb0bb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636878620104558839&sdata=qzAV%2B%2FSlUqd%2FeqvEjerGGAwP%2Bgayv%2Fi1sfpcgZiTyVI%3D&reserved=0> to begin impeachment proceedings, saying that there is more than enough evidence right now<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicususa.com%2F2019%2F03%2F04%2Ftrump-impeachment-threshold.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C03a62d8fb75c4e88529f08d6a5bb0bb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636878620104568851&sdata=uADWL0FiITLAJV9A%2Beg8Dz9%2BHZRhCVkk4tjldxoyk5w%3D&reserved=0> to start the process.

Last week we reported:<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicususa.com%2F2019%2F03%2F04%2Freport-house-democrats-plan-to-bleed-trump-slowly-with-investigations.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C03a62d8fb75c4e88529f08d6a5bb0bb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636878620104578868&sdata=HqqCQj6SjAkaYHzLQPZdU5Z3s1HYTawG5bCR9th8ROU%3D&reserved=0>

“Democrats in the House of Representatives are planning to roll out a lengthy series of investigations into President Donald Trump’s finances and his administration over the next few months as part of a long-term strategy to remove Trump from office.”

And there is no question that the many probes that Trump<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicususa.com%2F2019%2F03%2F03%2Fap-house-dems-begin-new-probes-that-could-end-trumps-presidency.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C03a62d8fb75c4e88529f08d6a5bb0bb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636878620104588867&sdata=3Tw5gyWM%2BipMZjG3L3OD6H5MMsTdhiY7OHNER3JOgPo%3D&reserved=0>, his family, his associates, and his administration will face in coming months will hurt the president politically.

As a matter of fact, Donald Trump may very well be indicted<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicususa.com%2F2019%2F02%2F18%2Freport-trump-may-be-indicted-by-the-sdny-as-they-probe-his-crimes.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C03a62d8fb75c4e88529f08d6a5bb0bb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636878620104598873&sdata=gg1d8eEKhuz40X%2BOnF5rx4L%2FmIRkzu6TKDUWsmTdpXI%3D&reserved=0>and charged with various crimes while he is still in office, and this could actually lead him to resign.<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicususa.com%2F2019%2F02%2F22%2Fanalysis-imminent-indictment-may-soon-cause-trump-to-resign.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C03a62d8fb75c4e88529f08d6a5bb0bb8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636878620104608884&sdata=60vDRAIAmmv4VOA9zpANLdwgQiC079HXzW7xmFD%2Bi3M%3D&reserved=0>

It’s Better to Bleed Trump Slowly

So the New Yorker is probably correct. It is better politically for Democrats to “bleed Trump slowly” through upcoming indictments and public hearings. Ultimately it may be more emotionally satisfying as well.

Donald Trump is the kind of villain for whom a long, slow, painful death is much deserved. In his case it is indeed true that “hanging’s too good for him.”

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I am a lifelong Democrat with a passion for social justice and progressive issues. I have degrees in writing, economics and law from the University of Iowa.


A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.

-Greek proverb

“Enlightenment is man’s emergence from his self-imposed immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one’s understanding without guidance from another. This immaturity is self- imposed when its cause lies not in lack of understanding, but in lack of resolve and courage to use it without guidance from another. Sapere Aude! ‘Have courage to use your own understand-ing!—that is the motto of enlightenment.

--Immanuel Kant


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