[Vision2020] Holistic Approaches to Recovery

[Darrell Keim]

I'm taking a cautious view.  Our bylaws are clear-we are open to all routes
to recovery.  I interviewed the guy more thoroughly than usual, etc.  Also
plan to sit in the session.  At the same time, didn't want my own biases to
cause an alternate view not to be discussed.

If we went against every offering people might not like we'd be very
limited.

No AA (has belief in a higher being)
No Yoga (linked to eastern mysticism/religion)
No art (Seems there's always someone finding an issue with art!)
No psychology (Might offend the scientologists)

etc...

Hopefully you've seen a variety of other offerings you do like...

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> wrote:

> I suppose that approach (whatever floats one’s boat) is more palatable if
> you’ve not worked with desperate people who have spent so much on
> homeopathic and “other” remedies that they can’t pay for anything else . .
> and have no time left to get effective help  L
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> Besides, I do think there’s a difference between presenting modalities
> that have some bone fide evidence of efficacy and pseudoscience like
> homeopathy which has *no* independent evidence of efficacy other than
> making the wallet lighter.
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> JMHO & Very Disappointed,
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> Saundra
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> *From:* keim152 at gmail.com [mailto:keim152 at gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Darrell
> Keim
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:43 PM
> *To:* Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
> *Cc:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Holistic Approaches to Recovery
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> We're open to all paths to recovery, Saundra.  We don't advocate for or
> against paths that may be of help.  If people want to try homeopathy is up
> to them.  Just like we don't advocate for or against religious paths to
> recovery, drug replacement therapies, etc.
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> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:20 PM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
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> Really???  Wow – I’m very, very sorry to see Latah Recovery Center allow
> transplanted quacks and charlatans access to vulnerable folks  L
> Homeopathy – which this quack specializes in – is a pseudoscience
> well-recognized to financially prey on the vulnerable and desperate.
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> This former veterinarian wackadoo also espouses a whole lot of flatly
> dangerous vet med . . . opinions, which is how I first came across him.
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> For those who aren’t aware, take a minute to ponder this about homeopathic
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> “There’s one exception to the rule that homeopathic products are
> basically sugar and water. Many of them list alcohol as an “inactive”
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> <http://barkpost.com/petco-product-pulled-alcohol/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post>.
> Because labeling laws on homeopathy are so different from regulations on
> real medicine
> <https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/how-should-the-fda-regulate-homeopathic-remedies/>
> with proven ingredients, the only actual drug in a bottle of homeopathic
> medicine—ethanol, the same active ingredient in vodka—doesn’t have to be
> listed as a drug. This is not an isolated case.”
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> http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/10/homeopathy_contains_alcohol_and_can_be_sold_to_minors.html
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> Very Disappointed,
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> Saundra
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> Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
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> ~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *Darrell Keim
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2016 1:47 PM
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Holistic Approaches to Recovery
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> For Immediate Release:
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> Dr. John Fudens, HMC will be discussing holistic approaches to recovery
> from addiction and mental health issues.  "As a homeopathic master
> clinician, I am concerned with all aspects of the being who is sick. The
> physical, mental, emotional, and psychological levels are all important.
> All aspects of the life are examined, from birth to adulthood, their track
> through life, including family background, schooling, health of parents,
> surgeries, drugs, injuries, etc."  Fudens is trained to work holistically
> with both animals and humans. He will be speaking on 4/12/16, from
> 6:30-8pm.  The Latah Recovery Center is located at 531 S Main, in Moscow.
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