[Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . . .

Darrell Keim keim153 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 8 13:41:25 PDT 2015


I suspect the stance is a pragmatic one:

The NRA is organized and likely to sue.

Is there a similar organization organized and rabidly defending the 1st
amendment?  Maybe some journalist organization.  We've effectively
eviscerated them in the past 30 years...

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> wrote:

> I have to say I’m not overly familiar with the situation, but it’s
> interesting to me in light of a conversation I had just this week with a
> newcomer to Moscow who was gob-smacked that free speech was limited to only
> certain areas during the Market.
>
>
>
> It seems to me I recall some discussion from a few years ago about free
> speech being allowed only in certain designated areas of the Farmer’s
> Market and being disallowed from the rest of the Market, but I really can’t
> remember any details.  I found the following on the City’s Web site, which
> seems to indicate this is indeed the case:
>
> https://www.ci.moscow.id.us/records/Policy/FM-Square-Policy.pdf
>
> “Any individual or group using all or part of the Speakers Space may also
> move freely within Friendship Square and within public spaces outside of
> the Market but such *Speaker(s) may not conduct business, sales or
> Speakers activities within the Market.*”
>
>
>
> If I’m correctly understanding, it seems pretty crazy to me that the City
> is OK with limiting the First Amendment and excluding dogs but is just
> peachy fine with open carry.
>
>
>
> I’m interested in learning more about this prioritization if anyone can
> help educate me.
>
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>
>
>
> TIA,
>
> Saundra Lund
>
> Moscow, ID
>
>
>
> Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
>
> ~ Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Hansen
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:38 AM
> *To:* Janesta <janesta at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Question, V-Peeps . . .
>
>
>
> That's just it, Janesta.  You didn't mention "appropriate behavior".
>
>
>
> I did . . . because I feel that, although it is legal to open-carry at
> Farmers Market, "appropriate behavior" should be considered before a person
> straps on his/her six-shooter and heads on over to Farmers Market.
>
>
>
> FYI:  I own a double-barrel (side-by-side) 12-gauge shotgun, which stays
> at home.  That sucker ain't seen daylight since we moved from Taylor Avenue
> to our current address three years ago.
>
>
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
>
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
>
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
>
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Aug 8, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Janesta <janesta at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> I am puzzled. Where did I mention anything about "appropriate behavior?"
>
> J
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> I realize that it is legal, Janesta.
>
>
>
> In response to "Why carry guns to Farmers Market", you suggest that
> "appropriate behavior" should not be a consideration?
>
>
>
> Let me see now . . .
>
>
>
> I can't take my pet dog to Farmer's Market.
>
>
>
> I can't light up a cigarette at Farmers Market.
>
>
>
> But, I can pack a couple loaded Glock 9's, an AR-15, a couple 30-round
> clips, a 100-round drum., a head on over to Friendship Square . . . to join
> a bunch of my friends in a li'l "show 'n tell".
>
>
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
>
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
>
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
>
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Aug 8, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Janesta <janesta at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It is legal
>
> Why? Because open carry is legal.
>
> btw. once upon a time, open carry referred to drinking a can of beer while
> walking, or driving
>
> Yes! For a long time it was not illegal to have an open container in the
> car in Idaho..
>
> yep! I am oficially *old* because when I opened the image, the first thing
> I looked for?
>
> A can of beer.
>
> From time to time I see people down here with a sidearm. I'd rather know
> who has a
>
> gun, than not see the gun. And yes, I DO give the person a wide berth.
>
> J
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com>
> wrote:
>
> What is the law concerning open-carry at Moscow's Farmers Market?
>
>
>
> As I was shooting photos at Friendship Square . . .
>
>
>
> http://www.moscowcares.com/FarmersMarket/FarMar_080815_Huh.jpg
>
>
>
> If open-carry is legal at Farmers Market (as I suspect it is), when would
> it be appropriate?  Simply asked . . . WHY?
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
>
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
>
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
>
>
> - John Lennon
>
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