[Vision2020] Realclimate.org 4-13-15: Ruddiman's Early Anthropogenic Climate Impact Theory

Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
Sun Apr 19 18:14:46 PDT 2015

Article referenced in subject heading:


A Scientific Debate Filed under: Climate Science — mike @ 13 April 2015

Bill Ruddiman, University of Virginia

Debi's one post in this thread merely said:

Thanks, Ted. this is good info, and assists me when i talk to folks with
little science background and a denier agenda---you are always on top of
it!  I have watched climate denier folks melt-down when confronted with
facts that refute their disbelief---even they can only suspend disbelief
until their arms hurt a bunch....and most of them don't have the muscle
debi R-S
Scott Dredge wrote:

To Ted: Regarding Debi's post, I was having trouble relating to her comment
that presenting data to those with little scientific background coupled
with a denier agenda would have any effect whatsoever on those types.  How
would an exchange with those such deniers even go down?

How would it go down?  Their arms would fall toward the ground, when their
muscle mass gave out!

I think she was making an attempt at humor, it seems to me...

Those with sufficient muscle mass might hold out indefinitely....

But why is the main point of the subject heading article being ignored?

The main point of the article by climate scientist Ruddiman on
Realclimate.org, referenced in this thread, was arguing against the claim
there is a plot (my wording) among climate scientists to block expression
of science that contradicts major human caused global warming occurring.

To quote:  "I see no evidence that the system is muffling good new ideas."

There was no argument presented by Ruddiman in that article, that human
induced global warming is a major problem that demands action, that I

Please show me where he made such an argument, if I missed it.

He was offering a history of his attempt to professionally present what
many climate scientists consider a controversial theory about
pre-industrial human induced climate change.

Regardless of whether or not a person thinks human caused global warming is
or is not going to be a major problem, unless we address it, the conspiracy
theory claiming climate scientists are globally plotting (it would have to
be global, with scientists from all over the world in general agreement on
this issue!) to manufacture a global warming crisis strikes me as
pathologically paranoid!

A hilarious take on such a conspiracy theory, worth a laugh for anyone,
regardless of their views on anthropogenic climate change, is at the
website below, and pasted in...


The Knights Carbonic

Yes, the hacked climate emails are damaging. But here’s the one you’d need
to see if you wanted to show that manmade global warming is a scam.

By George Monbiot, published in the Guardian, 23rd November 2009

It’s no use pretending that this isn’t a major blow. The emails extracted
by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the University of East
Anglia could scarcely be more damaging(1 <http://www.anelegantchaos.org/>).
I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I’m dismayed and deeply
shaken by them.

Yes, the messages were obtained illegally. Yes, all of us say things in
emails that would be excruciating if made public. Yes, some of the comments
have been taken out of context. But there are some messages that require no
spin to make them look bad. There appears to be evidence here of attempts
to prevent scientific data from being released(2
and even to destroy material that was subject to a freedom of information

Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the publication
of work by climate sceptics(5
or to keep it out of a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
I believe that the head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign. Some of
the data discussed in the emails should be re-analysed.

But do these revelations justify the sceptics’ claims that this is “the
final nail in the coffin” of global warming theory?(8
,9 <http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116882>) Not at all.
They damage the credibility of three or four scientists. They raise
questions about the integrity of one or perhaps two out of several hundred
lines of evidence. To bury manmade climate change, a far wider conspiracy
would have to be revealed. Luckily for the sceptics, and to my intense
disappointment, I have now been passed the damning email which confirms
that the entire science of global warming is indeed a scam. Had I known
that it was this easy to rig the evidence, I wouldn’t have wasted years of
my life promoting a bogus discipline. In the interests of open discourse, I
feel obliged to reproduce it here.

“From: ernst.kattweizel at redcar.ac.uk
Sent: 29th October 2009
To: The Knights Carbonic

Gentlemen, the culmination of our great plan approaches fast. What the
Master called “the ordering of men’s affairs by a transcendent world state,
ordained by God and answerable to no man”, which we now know as Communist
World Government, advances towards its climax at Copenhagen. For 185 years
since the Master, known to the laity as Joseph Fourier, launched his scheme
for world domination, the entire physical science community has been
working towards this moment.

The early phases of the plan worked magnificently. First the Master’s
initial thesis – that the release of infrared radiation is delayed by the
atmosphere – had to be accepted by the scientific establishment. I will not
bother you with details of the gold paid, the threats made and the blood
spilt to achieve this end. But the result was the elimination of the
naysayers and the disgrace or incarceration of the Master’s rivals. Within
35 years the 3rd Warden of the Grand Temple of the Knights Carbonic (our
revered prophet John Tyndall) was able to “demonstrate” the Master’s
thesis. Our control of physical science was by then so tight that no major
objections were sustained.

More resistence was encountered (and swiftly despatched) when we sought to
install the 6th Warden (Svante Arrhenius) first as professor of physics at
Stockholm University, then as rector. From this position he was able to
project the Master’s second grand law – that the infrared radiation trapped
in a planet’s atmosphere increases in line with the quantity of carbon
dioxide the atmosphere contains. He and his followers (led by the Junior
Warden Max Planck) were then able to adapt the entire canon of physical and
chemical science to sustain the second law.

Then began the most hazardous task of all: our attempt to control the
instrumental record. Securing the consent of the scientific establishment
was a simple matter. But thermometers had by then become widely available,
and amateur meteorologists were making their own readings. We needed to
show a steady rise as industrialisation proceeded, but some of these
unfortunates had other ideas. The global co-option of police and coroners
required unprecedented resources, but so far we have been able to cover our

The over-enthusiasm of certain of the Knights Carbonic in 1998 was most
regrettable. The high reading in that year has proved impossibly costly to
sustain. Those of our enemies who have yet to be silenced maintain that the
lower temperatures after that date provide evidence of global cooling, even
though we have ensured that eight of the ten warmest years since 1850 have
occurred since 2001(10
>From now on we will engineer a smoother progression.

Our co-option of the physical world has been just as successful. The
thinning of the Arctic ice cap was a masterstroke. The ring of secret
nuclear power stations around the Arctic Circle, attached to giant
immersion heaters, remains undetected, as do the space-based lasers
dissolving the world’s glaciers.

Altering the migratory and reproductive patterns of the world’s wildlife
has proved more challenging. Though we have now asserted control over the
world’s biologists, there is no accounting for the unauthorised
observations of farmers, gardeners, bird-watchers and other troublemakers.
We have therefore been forced to drive migrating birds, fish and insects
into higher latitudes, and to release several million tonnes of plant
pheromones every year to accelerate flowering and fruiting. None of this is
cheap, and ever more public money, secretly diverted from national accounts
by compliant governments, is required to sustain it.

The co-operation of these governments requires unflagging effort. The
capture of George W. Bush, a late convert to the cause of Communist World
Government, was made possible only by the threatened release of footage
filmed by a knight at Yale, showing the future president engaged in coitus
with a Ford Mustang. Most ostensibly-capitalist governments remain apprised
of where their real interests lie, though I note with disappointment that
we have so far failed to eliminate Vaclav Klaus. Through the offices of
compliant states, the Master’s third grand law has been accepted: world
government will be established under the guise of controlling manmade
emissions of greenhouse gases.

Keeping the scientific community in line remains a challenge. The national
academies are becoming ever more querulous and greedy, and require higher
pay-offs each year. The inexplicable events of the past month, in which the
windows of all the leading scientific institutions were broken and a
horse’s head turned up in James Hansen’s bed, appear to have staved off the
immediate crisis, but for how much longer can we maintain the consensus?

Knights Carbonic, now that the hour of our triumph is at hand, I urge you
all to redouble your efforts. In the name of the Master, go forth and

Professor Ernst Kattweizel, University of Redcar. 21st Grand Warden of the
Temple of the Knights Carbonic.”
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