[Vision2020] drone sighting

Kai Eiselein fotopro63 at hotmail.com
Sun Sep 21 14:34:30 PDT 2014


I don't know how long it can stay in the air, but Latah County Search and Rescue may find it useful.
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] drone sighting 
> From: moscowcares at moscow.com 
> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 13:41:55 -0700 
> CC: paul.rumelhart at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com 
> To: fotopro63 at hotmail.com 
>  
> And I am sure that these 4-hour classes will be available for  
> enrollment (including a Tri-State gift certificate) once Tri-State  
> starts selling drones. 
>  
> Sidebar:  I am seriously considering donating the "Moscow Cares" drone,  
> carrying case, Go-Pro3 camera, and sundry of various other related  
> items to a worthy cause.  This consideration and potential decision is  
> based primarily on my desire not to perform aerial  
> videotaping/photographing over populated grounds.  I mean . . . taking  
> it out to pastures, open fields and other deserted geography would get  
> real old real quick. 
>  
> Thoughts? 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. 
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill, 
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill." 
>  
> - John Lennon 
>  
>  
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Kai Eiselein  
> <fotopro63 at hotmail.com<mailto:fotopro63 at hotmail.com>> wrote: 
>  
> Mr. Hansen has made a good case for why drone operators should be  
> required to complete. and pass, an operator's course in order to gain a  
> license to fly these machines. 
> Additionally, because these things can fall out of the sky, potentially  
> causing damage and physical injury, the operators should be required to  
> carry an insurance policy of no less than two million dollars.  
> ($2,000,000) 
>  
> ________________________________ 
> From: thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com> 
> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 13:12:47 -0700 
> To: paul.rumelhart at gmail.com<mailto:paul.rumelhart at gmail.com> 
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> 
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] drone sighting 
>  
> Chief Duke - 
>  
> Mr. Rumelhart publicly stated that a large noisy drone was seen, by him 
> yesterday, flying over Moscow Junior High School. 
>  
> Mr. Rumelhart suggests that we should simply ignore it.  I don't 
>  
> Suppose the drone had experienced problems and crashed into a moving 
> car . . . or worse.  What then? 
>  
> I believe that an explanation is called for. 
>  
> Mr. Rumelhart may turn his back on this instance.  I assure you, Chief. 
>   I won't! 
>  
> How many more large, noisy drones will fly over public schools here in 
> Moscow before one crashes, causing physical injury, and you, Chief 
> Duke, think to yourself, "Maybe we should have done something about 
> this earlier." 
>  
> On the evening of September 11th, just before the megaload entered 
> Moscow, I met up with a few MPD officers outside city hall and we 
> discussed drones (the "Moscow Cares" drone in particular) and their 
> potential for property and physical injury.   That discussion was a 
> major factor in my decision not to fly the drone over populated 
> grounds. 
>  
> Perhaps the same concern should be applied to the large noisy drone 
> (and the potential for more) Mr. Rumelhart witnessed yesterday.  I am 
> sure that the parents of the students at Moscow Junior High School 
> Would appreciate it. 
>  
> I eagerly await your reply. 
>  
> On the evening of September 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
>  
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Paul Rumelhart 
> <paul.rumelhart at gmail.com<mailto:paul.rumelhart at gmail.com><mailto:paul.rumelhart at gmail.com>>  
> wrote: 
>  
>  
> Answer to Mr. Hansen, I have no idea which local agencies have drones. 
> Somebody does. This wasn't a quad copter, it had a long narrow body, a 
> fin, and a wider section at the front. 
>  
> Also, my apologies to Chief Duke for being dragged into this 
> conversation. If I wanted to report something I would call the non 
> emergency number at the station instead of cc'ing you like you were the 
> guy down the hall that handles the TPS reports. 
>  
> Paul 
>  
> On Sep 21, 2014 10:34 AM, "Tom Hansen" 
> <thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com><mailto:thansen at moscow.com>>  
> wrote: 
> Mr. Rumelhart stated: 
>  
> "This one was a few feet long and looked like an official drone some 
> department or other was testing out. I highly doubt they were deploying 
> it illegally." 
>  
> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2014-September/098157.html 
>  
> Question, Mr. Rumelhart:  Since I have never seen a drone flying within 
> Moscow city limits (with the sole exception of the "Moscow Cares" drone 
> I flew the other day at Guy Wicks Field), what department (state, 
> county, or city) possesses a drone? 
>  
> Question for Chief Duke:  Chief, are you aware of ANY drones flown over 
> Moscow Junior High School yesterday (Saturday)?  I ask this question 
> because I consider such activity to be a threat to the safety of the 
> Moscow community.  I have thought it over carefully and extensively.  I 
> have decided not to fly the "Moscow Cares" drone (pictured below) over 
> people or a location with the potential of inhabiting people. 
>  
> <image1.jpeg> 
>  
> Thank you for your anticipated and thoughtful response, Chief. 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
>  
>  
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Tom Hansen 
> <thansen at moscow.com<mailto:thansen at moscow.com><mailto:thansen at moscow.com>>  
> wrote: 
>  
> Nope. 
>  
> Mine is virtually silent 
>  
> Anybody care to see Guy Wicks Field from approximately 200 (that's 
> right, two hundred) feet? 
>  
> I don't see why I was so concerned.  This drone is easier to fly, and 
> control (via iPad), than a kite. 
>  
> If I were you, Mr. Rumelhart, I would report this sighting to the 
> Moscow Police.  Flying a drone, especially one as noisy as you claim, 
> over a public school is dangerous. 
>  
> Never mind.  I Cc'd a copy of this to Moscow Police Chief Duke.  You 
> can provide the missing details to the officer when he stops by, ok? 
> The community would appreciate it. 
>  
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
>  
> "Moscow Cares" 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com<http://www.moscowcares.com/> 
>  
> Tom Hansen 
> Moscow, Idaho 
>  
>  
> On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Paul Rumelhart 
> <paul.rumelhart at gmail.com<mailto:paul.rumelhart at gmail.com><mailto:paul.rumelhart at gmail.com>>  
> wrote: 
>  
> I just saw what I looked like a big white drone making a loud piercing 
> whistle sound heading west above the Junior High.  Anyone else see it? 
> Is this Tom's new toy?  I can only assume it was spying on me, 
> attempting to divine exactly what I'm putting in the chili I've been 
> preparing for dinner. 
>  
> Paul 
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