[Vision2020] The tab (Was: Fwd: Sorry to bug you)
Darrell Keim
keim153 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 1 13:53:38 PDT 2014
Actually, due to the lack of logic in your response I was choosing not to
engage.
Comparing Hawkins (and all its deserved controversy due to the stateline,
retail leakage, tax dollars for an out of state business, etc) to a simple
event showcasing what the city offers to new residents just doesn't
correlate.
And the loss to city coffers for caterer fee's seems so negligible as to be
laughable compared to the potential upside. If even one business stays in
business, that meager amount should be recouped.
I will go back to exercising that choice now.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> Like . . . DUH!
>
> I was kinda hoping that Mr. Keim, what with his experience with the Moscow
> Chamber of Commerce might have noticed that, as well.
>
> Rodna and I haven't done any serious mall shopping IN YEARS.
>
> But, if Billy Lambert and Mr. Keim think that a block-party is suddenly
> gonna change that . . .
>
> Now, if you'll excuse me, Rodna's birthday is coming up in a few days and
> I've got to logon and order her present from Hammacher Schlemmer. They
> ship next-day air, too. BOY, will she be surprised.
>
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2014, at 1:10 PM, Ron Force <rforce2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Why hasn't Hawkins developed the mall? Maybe because the shopping mall is
> dying:
>
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/jun/19/-sp-death-of-the-american-shopping-mall
>
> Ron Force
> Moscow Idaho USA
>
>
> On Sunday, August 31, 2014 6:49 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> That's garbage, Mr. Keim.
>
> Explain why Hawkins Companies hasn't, since 2008, developed the Hawkins
> Mall?
>
> http://www.hcollc.com/for-lease/washington/pullman-hwy-270-airport-rd/
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The easy response here: One can argue that an event like this is designed
> to invest in our cities businesses. Helping them grow. Maybe even
> attracting more businesses in a friendly, healthy economic environment.
> Businesses that will... wait for it... pay taxes!
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> What do you mean by "income"?
>
> Are you suggesting that the fee should be looked at as frivolous revenue?
>
> In case you missed the headlines, Mr. Dredge, the city is undergoing a
> very tight budget. All funds received are ear-marked to support city
> costs.
>
> The costs to which this "income" would have been paid remain due and
> payable. Applying this "income" to any city costs (i.e. city council
> cell-phone stipends) would serve to "lighten the load" incurred by city
> tax-payers.
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> So, the city charges a $20.00 fee, which is income............ I don't see
> the city paying for anything.
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
>
> Sunil wrote:
> <Maybe a good starting point is figuring out how big the tab is: Then we
> can decide if we think it's a wise way to spend funds. So tell us what the
> tab is...This event should stand on its own merits.>
>
> Agreed that's a good place to start. Does anyone know the total of the
> tab?
>
> ------------------------------
> From: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
> To: thansen at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:14:38 -0600
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Sorry to bug you
>
> Tom asks:
> <How many times have people on the Viz trashed Nancy Chaney when she was
> mayor?>
>
> I can answer with certainty that the number of times that 'people on the
> Viz trashed Nancy Chaney when she was mayor' is exactly ZERO and I contend
> that neither you nor anyone else would be able to find anything in viz
> archives to the contrary.
>
> And how ironic is it that you, the master of regularly spewing immature
> comments, would be complaining about anyone else engaging in trash talk?
>
> ------------------------------
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:57:17 -0700
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Sorry to bug you
>
> No, Sunil.
>
> The animosity I expressed is strictly mine, ok?
>
> I made reference to others criticizing then-mayor Chaney to prevent the
> predictable onslaught of "Don't make nasty comments about Mayor Lambert"
> comments.
>
> The opinions I express are strictly my own. Thank God I live in the Nifty
> Fifty (USA) where I can freely and openly express them. Right?
>
> I DISLIKE MAYOR LAMBERT AND ALL THE OTHER GMA (Giving Moscow Away)
> LEMMINGS!
>
> There. I said it.
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> I was trying to follow my own advice just now and save that in my draft
> box. So while I've told you that's what you should do with lots of your
> posts, I recognize that might be harder to accomplish than I thought.
>
> I don't expect you or anyone else to apologize for having different views
> from mine. But you just confirmed what I said: You're criticizing Bill
> because other people criticized Nancy. Not many people look sharp using
> that tactic.
>
> You want other people to be mad the Council is picking up the tab? Maybe a
> good starting point is figuring out how big the tab is: Then we can decide
> if we think it's a wise way to spend funds. So tell us what the tab is.
>
> This event should stand on its own merits. It's got nothing to do with who
> got sent to Iraq, or how other people were treated. I'm not going to judge
> it on irrelevant factors, and I doubt many other people will.
>
> Sunil
>
> ------------------------------
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Sorry to bug you
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:32:34 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>
> Sunil Reminds us . . .
>
> "Tom also wants to bash Bill Lambert."
>
> Sorry if my opinion differs from yours, Sunil. How many times have people
> on the Viz trashed Nancy Chaney when she was mayor?
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tom also wants to bash Bill Lambert.
>
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