<div dir="ltr"><div>Actually, due to the lack of logic in your response I was choosing not to engage. </div><div><br></div><div>Comparing Hawkins (and all its deserved controversy due to the stateline, retail leakage, tax dollars for an out of state business, etc) to a simple event showcasing what the city offers to new residents just doesn't correlate.</div>
<div><br></div><div>And the loss to city coffers for caterer fee's seems so negligible as to be laughable compared to the potential upside. If even one business stays in business, that meager amount should be recouped.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I will go back to exercising that choice now.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Like . . . DUH!</div><div><br></div><div>I was kinda hoping that Mr. Keim, what with his experience with the Moscow Chamber of Commerce might have noticed that, as well.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Rodna and I haven't done any serious mall shopping IN YEARS.</div><div><br></div><div>But, if Billy Lambert and Mr. Keim think that a block-party is suddenly gonna change that . . .</div><div><br></div>
<div>Now, if you'll excuse me, Rodna's birthday is coming up in a few days and I've got to logon and order her present from Hammacher Schlemmer. They ship next-day air, too. BOY, will she be surprised.<div><br>
<br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div>
<div><a style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div>
<div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- John Lennon</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Sep 1, 2014, at 1:10 PM, Ron Force <<a href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rforce2003@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<div><span>Why hasn't Hawkins developed the mall? Maybe because the shopping mall is dying:</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,"Helvetica Neue Light","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span><br></span></div><div></div><div> <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/jun/19/-sp-death-of-the-american-shopping-mall" target="_blank">http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/jun/19/-sp-death-of-the-american-shopping-mall</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA </div><div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">
<div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Sunday, August 31, 2014 6:49 PM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</font> </div> <blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-top:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left-color:rgb(16,16,255);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid"> <br><br> <div><div><div><div><span></span></div><div></div>
</div><div><div>That's garbage, Mr. Keim.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Explain why Hawkins Companies hasn't, since 2008, developed the Hawkins Mall?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><span><a href="http://www.hcollc.com/for-lease/washington/pullman-hwy-270-airport-rd/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.hcollc.com/for-lease/washington/pullman-hwy-270-airport-rd/</a></span><br clear="none">
<br clear="none"><div><span>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div>
<div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span> </span></div><div><div><span>Tom Hansen</span></div><div>
<span>Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span>But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span>If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>- John Lennon</span></div><div><span> </span></div></div><div><div><br clear="none">On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Darrell Keim <<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">keim153@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">The easy response here: One can argue that an event like this is designed to invest in our cities businesses. Helping them grow. Maybe even attracting more
businesses in a friendly, healthy economic environment. Businesses that will... wait for it... pay taxes!</div>
<div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Tom Hansen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div><div>What do you mean by "income"?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Are you suggesting that the fee should be looked at as frivolous revenue?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>In case you missed the headlines, Mr. Dredge, the city is undergoing a very tight budget. All funds received are ear-marked to support city costs. </div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>The costs to which this "income" would have been paid remain due and payable. Applying this "income" to any city costs (i.e. city council cell-phone stipends) would serve to "lighten the load" incurred by city tax-payers.</div>
<div><div><br clear="none"><div><span>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div>
<div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span> </span></div>
<div><div><span>Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span>Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span><br clear="none">
</span></div><div><span>"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span>But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span>If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>- John Lennon</span></div>
<div><span> </span></div></div></div><div><div><div><br clear="none">On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Wayne Price <<a href="mailto:bear@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">bear@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>So, the city charges a $20.00 fee, which is income............ I don't see the city paying for anything.<div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>
Wayne</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
<div><br clear="none"><div><div>On Aug 31, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:</div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt"><div dir="ltr">Sunil wrote:<br clear="none">
<Maybe a good starting point is figuring out how big the tab is: Then we can decide if we think it's a wise way to spend funds. So tell us what the tab is...This event should stand on its own merits.><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">Agreed that's a good place to start. Does anyone know the total of the tab?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><hr>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a><br clear="none">
To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">thansen@moscow.com</a>;<span> </span><a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br clear="none">
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:14:38 -0600<br clear="none">CC:<span> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Sorry to bug you<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">Tom asks:<br clear="none">
<<span>How many times have people on the Viz trashed Nancy Chaney when she was mayor?><br clear="none"><br clear="none">I can answer with certainty that the number of times that '</span><span>people on the Viz trashed Nancy Chaney when she was mayor' is exactly ZERO and I contend that neither you nor anyone else would be able to find anything in viz archives to the contrary.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">And how ironic is it that you, the master of regularly spewing immature comments, would be complaining about anyone else engaging in trash talk?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span><div><hr>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">thansen@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:57:17 -0700<br clear="none">To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br clear="none">CC:<span> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Sorry to bug you<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div>No, Sunil.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The animosity I expressed is strictly mine, ok?</div><div><br clear="none"></div>
<div>I made reference to others criticizing then-mayor Chaney to prevent the predictable onslaught of "Don't make nasty comments about Mayor Lambert" comments.</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>The opinions I express are strictly my own. Thank God I live in the Nifty Fifty (USA) where I can freely and openly express them. Right?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I DISLIKE MAYOR LAMBERT AND ALL THE OTHER GMA (Giving Moscow Away) LEMMINGS!</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>There. I said it.</div><br clear="none"><div><span>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span><br clear="none">
</span></div><div><span>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div>
<div><span> </span></div><div><div><span>Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span>Moscow, Idaho</span></div>
</div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span>But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span>If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>- John Lennon</span></div>
<div><span> </span></div></div><div><br clear="none">On Aug 31, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Sunil <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div><blockquote><div><div dir="ltr">Tom,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I was trying to follow my own advice just now and save that in my draft box. So while I've told you that's what you should do with lots of your posts, I recognize that might be harder to accomplish than I thought.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">I don't expect you or anyone else to apologize for having different views from mine. But you just confirmed what I said: You're criticizing Bill because other people criticized Nancy. Not many people look sharp using that tactic.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">You want other people to be mad the Council is picking up the tab? Maybe a good starting point is figuring out how big the tab is: Then we can decide if we think it's a wise way to spend funds. So tell us what the tab is.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">This event should stand on its own merits. It's got nothing to do with who got sent to Iraq, or how other people were treated. I'm not going to judge it on irrelevant factors, and I doubt many other people will.<span> </span><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">Sunil<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><hr>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Sorry to bug you<br clear="none">From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">thansen@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:32:34 -0700<br clear="none">CC:<span> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">
To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>Sunil Reminds us . . .</div><div><br clear="none">
</div><div><span>"</span><span>Tom also wants to bash Bill Lambert."</span></div>
<div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>Sorry if my opinion differs from yours, Sunil. How many times have people on the Viz trashed Nancy Chaney when she was mayor?</span></div><div><br clear="none"><div><span>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div>
<div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div>
<div><span> </span></div><div><div><span>Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span>Moscow, Idaho</span></div>
</div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span>But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div>
<div><span>If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>- John Lennon</span></div>
<div><span> </span></div></div><div><br clear="none">On Aug 31, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Sunil <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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