[Vision2020] "Journey for Justice"

Sat Nov 29 18:41:11 PST 2014

You don't get that the world isn't black and white.  You don't get gray. You don't get people and you don't get nuance.

Don't look for them at fucking Wal-Mart, they're not on the shelves. 

Seriously, of course they're not going to charge anyone for the response. You can't figure out that whoever is in charge,  they'll need that response for the next Occupy protests? 

Sunil

Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 16:44:13 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Journey for Justice"
From: paul.rumelhart at gmail.com
To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com

They aren't talking about bringing federal charges against the guy who 
ordered the state response against the protests, and they aren't talking
 about bringing anyone up on charges because of police brutality or 
over-zealous use of military resources during the protests.  They are 
talking about bringing federal charges against Wilson, regardless of 
whether or not there is any actual evidence that what he did was 
racially motivated.  Maybe you don't give a shit about that, but I think
 it's wrong.

"Why do you return  to the same place no matter what anyone else says?"

Because I don't purchase my fucking opinions at Walmart on Black Friday, and I don't simply change them because that's what the cool people are thinking these days.  I get that people are upset about a lot of things in this case, but what I'm addressing is the injustice that might happen as a consequence because "race".

Paul

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:

For crying out loud, why is your default position "If they are going to serve this guy up on the altar of institutional 
racism, though, it would be nice if what he had done was actually a 
racist act.  Otherwise, they have the wrong target?"

Can you not consider that he killed the kid when he should not have killed him, and people who are used to institutional racism see that at play when he isn't indicted? When the prosecutor makes sure there is no indictment?

Why do you return  to the same place no matter what anyone else says?

Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 15:40:57 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Journey for Justice"
From: paul.rumelhart at gmail.com
To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com

Sure, I have no trouble believing that institutional racism exists.  And if those walking are protesting the heavy-handed handling of their protests, then fine.  I can get behind that.  

Paul

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:

Paul,

Do you not want to look at the big picture? There's a good argument that the state response to the post-shooting protests reflect police brutality and militarization. I'm curious: do you reject the idea that  sometimes institutional racism exists within police departments?

Sunil

Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 11:56:29 -0800
From: paul.rumelhart at gmail.com
To: thansen at moscow.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Journey for Justice"

“We stand 
committed to continue our fight against racial profiling, police 
brutality and the militarization of local authorities.”

Those are certainly good things to protest against, but is there any indication that Wilson used racial profiling in his encounter with Brown?  Unless his handgun was some new space-age blaster weapon, I'm guessing he wasn't overly militarized, either.

The question of police brutality (excessive force, really) rests on whether or not Wilson was telling the truth about being rushed by Brown or whether his friend was telling the truth about their surrendering to him.

Since he wasn't indicted, I guess we'll have to wait for whatever lawsuits or criminal charges next get sent his way.

Paul

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
Courtesy of the St. Louis American at:
http://www.stlamerican.com/news/local_news/article_f95c08a8-7778-11e4-8941-c312233af829.html?mode=jqm
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NAACP ‘Journey for Justice’ march from Ferguson to Jefferson City starts today In response to the grand jury’s decision not to indict Darren Wilson for the killing of 18 year old Michael Brown Jr., the NAACP, including members of the Youth and College division and senior and youth organizations, will be embarking on a 120 mile, 7 - day march entitled, “Journey for Justice: Ferguson to Jefferson City”.
“The NAACP stands with citizens and communities who are deeply disappointed that the grand jury did not indict Darren Wilson for the tragic death of Michael Brown, Jr,” said William Brooks, NAACP President & CEO . “We stand committed to continue our fight against racial profiling, police brutality and the militarization of local authorities.”
The Journey for Justice will commence with a commissioning service at 12 noon at the Washington Metropolitan AME, the march will start at 1pm at the Canfield Green Apartments and conclude at the Missouri Governor's Mansion in Jefferson City.
For seven days, beginning Saturday, November 29th, marchers will walk along the route to the Governor’s Mansion. Each evening, the marchers will participate in teach-ins and rallies that are open to the public. New participants are welcome to join the Journey for Justice each morning as walking commences. We expect buses will provide relief for marchers along the 120 mile Journey for Justice.
Brooks says the purpose of the march is to call for new leadership of the Ferguson police department, beginning with the police chief, and for new reforms of police practice and culture in both Ferguson and across the country.
Our “Journey for Justice: Ferguson to Jefferson City” march is the first of many demonstrations to show both the country and the world that the NAACP and our allies will not stand down until systemic change, accountability and justice in cases of police misconduct are served for Michael Brown and the countless other men and women who lost their lives to such police misconduct.
“Journey for Justice: Ferguson to Jefferson City” will begin with a 12 noon commissioning service is at Washington Metropolitan AME 613 N Garrison Ave, St Louis, MO 63103. The march will begin at 1 p.m. in Canfield Green Apartments 2974 Coppercreek Rd, St Louis, MO 63136
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