[Vision2020] Paranoia in Pullman

Gary Crabtree moscowlocksmith at gmail.com
Sat Nov 22 05:29:22 PST 2014


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On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't see a '4- and 5- hour discrepancy'.  In analyzing this incident
> like the 61 year old (to the day (...well almost)) Zapruder film, Tom's
> first email hit me at 7:09am.  The second at 7:54am.  And the third and
> fourth arrived with uncanny almost pinpoint accuracy on the half (actually
> 8:31am) and top hour (precisely 8:59am).  This represents a window of just
> under 2 hours which is far less than Tom's assertion of 4 to 5 hours.
> Sunil's email fell harmlessly into my inbox at 9:02am, a mere 3 minutes
> after the last of Tom's multiple emails.  Even using Sunil's timestamp as a
> benchmark, that would mean according to Tom's testimony that Tom would have
> fired off his first email AT THE ABSOLUTE LATEST at either 4:02am
> (unlikely) or 5:02am (improbably) considering that this would deviate
> significantly from the timestamps of most of Tom's emails from historical
> records.
>
> In conclusion, I feel that Paul's assessment is the most accurate in that
> 1) It has all the appearances to an outside observer that it might possibly
> have been a connection problem that Tom was unaware of thus was sending an
> email once every half hour and being puzzled that it wasn't showing up on
> v2020, and 2) Paul's decision to not get involved was a wise one especially
> in light of Paul telling Tom not to call the police on his behalf.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:51:32 -0800
> From: paul.rumelhart at gmail.com
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Paranoia in Pullman
>
> I thought about suggesting that he might have a connection problem he
> wasn't aware of, but it turns out that my decision to leave him be and let
> him figure it out on his own was probably a good one.
>
> Paul
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Oh, I'm occupied with far more interesting tasks, such as removing lint
> from my navel. I was just idly wondering if you were hitting send
> repeatedly.
>
> Sunil
>
> ------------------------------
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Paranoia in Pullman
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:45:25 -0800
> CC: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
>
>
> Here is a challenge, Mr's Dredge and Ramalingam . . .
>
> If you check the times sent, versus the times received (by Vision 2020),
> you will notice a 4- and 5-hour
> discrepancy.  I telephoned First Step concerning this problem and,
> apparently, they squared it away.
>
> However, I'm glad to simply know that I added adventure to your otherwise
> boring lives.
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I received  the 'Paranoia in Pullman' email 4 times in rapid fire
> succession.  It seemed to have more of a signature of 'Paranoia in Moscow'
> overloading v2020.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 09:01:35 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Paranoia in Pullman
>
> Tom,
>
> Are you re-sending emails or is this a glitch in the system? Third day in
> a row that your same email has popped up multiple times.
>
> Sunil
>
> ------------------------------
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 05:21:45 -0800
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Paranoia in Pullman
>
> Courtesy of today's (November 21, 2014) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.
>
> --------------------------------------
> Police: Records request overload staff
>
> An anonymous request seeks all body camera footage from Pullman Police
>
>
>
> Staff at the Pullman Police Department may soon be drowning in hours of
> video footage as they attempt to fulfill an anonymous request to post the
> footage on YouTube.
>
> The public records request submitted early this week asked for the
> department to turn over all body and vehicle camera footage it has
> recorded. Pullman Police Cmdr. Chris Tennant said that means footage dating
> back a year-and-a-half will have to be edited and handed over to comply
> with the request.
>
> At a Tuesday night Pullman City Council meeting, City Supervisor Mark
> Workman said there are 1.7 terabytes of video footage to wade through.
>
> "It was not a typical request," Tennant said. "It was - 'I want all videos
> posted on YouTube for everybody to access.' "
>
> Tennant said the department turned the request over to the city attorney
> to make sure it was a legal request and to determine costs and realistic
> timelines to complete the request.
>
> "This anonymous requester has been communicating with the records and
> legal department to narrow down the request," Tennant said.
>
> One of the major issues with the request is how to address privacy issues
> in the videos in a cost-effective and timely manner.
>
> The cameras used by the department were created so footage cannot be
> edited, meaning the department will have to find a software program to blur
> out or block faces, license plates and other private objects.
>
> "One of the problems is who will do that," he said. "I got two records
> clerks downstairs that work on public records requests."
>
> The two clerks handle roughly five to 10 requests a week already and some
> of them are fairly complicated and take a significant amount of time, he
> said.
>
> Footage connected with an active case or investigation doesn't have to be
> released, but that doesn't reduce the hours of video by much.
>
> "It's not just the 'fun stuff" you see on TV," he said. "I've got to be
> honest, most of the stuff is pretty boring."
>
> A typical clip of video related to a driving under the influence arrest
> will only have about 20 minutes on the street and another three hours will
> be fingerprinting, processing and handling inventory, Tennant said.
>
> There are a minimum of three officers out at any given time of the day,
> each working nine-hour shifts. On average, Tennant said officers will
> activate their camera five times a shift.
>
> "We are generating it faster than a person can redact," he said.
>
> Two other departments in Poulsbo and Bremerton, Wash., also received the
> request from an anonymous individual, according to an Associated Press
> story Tuesday.
>
> Poulsbo Police Chief Al Townsend told the AP that the 1,100 hours of video
> requested from his department would take years to review with its limited
> staff .
>
> "We don't want to put people's private lives out there," Townsend had
> said. "I can't in good conscience give out footage that shows people in
> their homes."
>
> Bremerton police officials said they hope the Legislature will act to
> address the problem.
>
> "I hope, personally, the state Legislature will look at public records
> request legislation," Tennant said. "I think we need to update the laws."
>
> Tennant said the technology used for body and dash cameras was created to
> enhance transparency, which he said he believes is the goal of the
> anonymous requester.
>
> "I think the general public really wants cameras out there and we as a
> police department really want cameras out there," Tennant said. "To have
> the whole idea derailed and go back to the stone age of written reports,
> that's not the purpose or the intent."
>
> The AP reported the Bremerton Police Department plans to buy 42 cameras
> for officers, but Chief Steven Strachan is apprehensive about spending the
> money only to be struck by records requests.
>
> Tennant said he hopes the request won't prompt the discontinuing use of
> the cameras in Pullman.
>
> "That has been mentioned here in Pullman and I certainly hope it doesn't
> come to that," he said. "We don't have that defeatist attitude, but having
> to hire 10 people is unrealistic."
>
> As of Thursday, Tennant said, an official plan to handle the request has
> still not been formulated.
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
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