[Vision2020] A 1.6 million-pound megaload, huh?
Wayne Price
bear at moscow.com
Wed May 21 16:46:46 PDT 2014
Scott,
Just hope he has the STATES permission too!
Last time I checked, State laws still trump "city approval"
Wayne
Idaho Statutes
TITLE 21 AERONAUTICS CHAPTER 2
STATE LAW FOR AERONAUTICS
21-213. RESTRICTIONS ON USE OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS -- DEFINITION -- VIOLATION -- CAUSE OF ACTION AND DAMAGES.
(1) (a) For the purposes of this section, the term "unmanned aircraft system" (UAS) means an unmanned aircraft vehicle, drone, remotely piloted vehicle, remotely piloted aircraft or remotely operated aircraft that is a powered aerial vehicle that does not carry a human operator, can fly autonomously or remotely and can be expendable or recoverable.
(b) Unmanned aircraft system does not include:
(i) Model flying airplanes or rockets including, but not necessarily limited to, those that are radio controlled or otherwise remotely controlled and that are used purely for sport or recreational purposes; and
(ii) An unmanned aircraft system used in mapping or resource management.
(2) (a) Absent a warrant, and except for emergency response for safety, search and rescue or controlled substance investigations, no person, entity or state agency shall use an unmanned aircraft system to intentionally conduct surveillance of, gather evidence or collect information about, or photographically or electronically record specifically targeted persons or specifically targeted private property including, but not limited to:
(i) An individual or a dwelling owned by an individual and such dwelling's curtilage, without such individual's written consent;
(ii) A farm, dairy, ranch or other agricultural industry without the written consent of the owner of such farm, dairy, ranch or other agricultural industry.
(b) No person, entity or state agency shall use an unmanned aircraft system to photograph or otherwise record an individual, without such individual's written consent, for the purpose of publishing or otherwise publicly disseminating such photograph or recording.
(3) Any person who is the subject of prohibited conduct under subsection (2) of this section shall:
(a) Have a civil cause of action against the person, entity or state agency for such prohibited conduct; and
(b) Be entitled to recover from any such person, entity or state agency damages in the amount of the greater of one thousand dollars ($1,000) or actual and general damages, plus reasonable attorney's fees and other litigation costs reasonably incurred.
(4) An owner of facilities located on lands owned by another under a valid easement, permit, license or other right of occupancy is not prohibited in this section from using an unmanned aircraft system to aerially inspect such facilities.
On May 21, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> Yes, Mr. Dredge . . .
>
> PLEEEEEEASE discharge a firearm within Moscow city limits (which is exactly where I will be flying it, for which I have attained city approval).
>
> PLEEEEEEEASE DO, ok?
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On May 21, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Wayne Price <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like skeet to me *S*
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>> On May 21, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
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>>> A couple things, Mr. Dredge . . .
>>>
>>> "Verstehen sie" is German for "Do you understand", not "Do you see". You are getting "Verstehen sie" confused with "Gesehen sie" which IS German for "Do you see". Good news, though. You're doing marginally better with English. Hang in there.
>>>
>>> And . . .
>>>
>>> Please continue to keep your paranoia healthy and in the "ready", ok? I say this because next week . . . that's right NEXT WEEK . . . after several applications in several LARGE fields along ID-200 and determined to be ready . . . Moscow Cares is going . . .
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>>> AIRBORNE !
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>>> <image.jpeg>
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>>> As much as I wished I had a photo to show you, control of the drone and camera (while airborne) requires two people's attention. And since there was only Rodna and I . . .
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>>> So, seeya then, Mr. Dredge, . . . or maybe not . . . but who knows, right?
>>>
>>> 'Till then, keep your eyes to the skies, because . . .
>>>
>>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
>>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>>>
>>> - John Lennon
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd guess you wouldn't lose sight of the bigger picture Sunil. Meanwhile Tom is easily distracted by things like spindly bridges and pesky power lines as if those things can't be easily managed. Also note that Tom's best case scenario opinion is that 'megaloads are not transported through Idaho AT ALL!!' Tom further asked 'Verstehen sie?'. No, I don't see Tom's point considering if megaloads are routed around Idaho they'll still ultimately make it the tar sands.
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>>>> From: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 07:04:46 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A 1.6 million-pound megaload, huh?
>>>>
>>>> Well Scott,
>>>>
>>>> You know how we environmentalists lose sight of the ecological devastation of the tar sands oil extraction efforts and get upset about water purification.
>>>>
>>>> Sunil
>>>>
>>>> From: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
>>>> To: kmmos1 at frontier.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:10:55 -0600
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A 1.6 million-pound megaload, huh?
>>>>
>>>> Ken writes:
>>>> > Yes, I am replying to myself in order to transmit some interesting information
>>>> > from bridgehunter.com that includes results from a bridge inspection in August, 2012:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://bridgehunter.com/id/bonner/30120/
>>>>
>>>> If megaloads are planned to cross this bridge, expect a lot of bellyaching from Tom and others. If it's just people driving their cars over it who are risk of death and injury, expect no one to care. You need to keep in mind that the megaload movements need to be blocked because their payload is intended for water purification. That's the real outrage.
>>>>
>>>> -Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 15:02:47 -0700
>>>> From: kmmos1 at frontier.com
>>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A 1.6 million-pound megaload, huh?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/20/2014 12:57 PM, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
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>>>> On 5/20/2014 12:25 PM, Saundra Lund wrote:
>>>> What an asinine thing to say. But, if we’re going for the truly absurd, which both Scott and Gary seem to want, saying that a best case scenario for those objecting to the mega-loads would be a catastrophic bridge collapse is like saying that a best case scenario for those who worship at the 2A alter is for more school shootings so that one will eventually happen in a school where a 2Aer has a gun to “take out” the goblin and hence make the ideal 2”A trumps all” case.
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>>>> Your use of the words goblin and catastrophic bridge collapse remind me of a new book title -- Raising Steam -- which is the 40th volume in Terry Pratchett's Discworld series of humorous fantasy entertainments. I borrowed the audio book version of this title from the local library and used it to acclimatize myself to a new pair of headphones -- wireless ones this time -- and was quite pleased with the performance of the audio performer Stephen Briggs of Terry Pratchett's text.
>>>>
>>>> The relevance of this material to the matter at hand is merely to note that, unlike in Discworld, when it seems necessary to move very heavy loads across bridges that may be either non-existent or not designed for such heavy loads, additional calculations and engineering are strongly advised. In this world, unlike in Discworld, solutions involving the surreptitious use of magical municipal assets are not available. Getting and applying the knowledge of the sliding rule, as one of the book's characters would suggest, is a prerequisite for becoming a master engineer and successfully solving such problems.
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>>>> Yes, I am replying to myself in order to transmit some interesting information from bridgehunter.com that includes results from a bridge inspection in August, 2012:
>>>>
>>>> http://bridgehunter.com/id/bonner/30120/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
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