[Vision2020] more guns on campus

[Paul Rumelhart]

I don't know about the full police academy treatment, but more applicable training for enhanced carry permit holders seems like a good idea to me.  I'm not talking about training in how to assault a fortified position or anything, but more training in how to use their specific weapon, what their responsibilities are, and how they are expected to react in a number of different situations would be a good idea.  The more responsible. careful, and competent those permit holders are, the better for everyone (on campus or off).

Paul




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 From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
To: "godshatter at yahoo.com" <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>; vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] more guns on campus
 


Since the primary theme of the pro-guns-on-campus movement is the availability of an immediate armed contingent to respond to an armed-crazy on campus . . . until the police arrive . . . perhaps an applicant, prior to being issued a CCW permit, should satisfactorily complete polic training . . . instead of an 8-hour soiree with a for-profit "instructor".

Thoughts?


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Tom Hansen
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On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:12 AM, "godshatter at yahoo.com" <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:


What else is needed?  The Constitution is the only reason the government exists, without it no other laws are valid. We can't just ignore it because the current meme is "guns are bad".
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>I don't say it that way because I want to be accurate. 
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>What's your basis for saying the universities' policies are "unneeded restrictions on a students' Consitutionally-guaranteed right to bear arms."? I hope you're not going to just paste in the 2nd Amendment and nothing else, but I'm pretty sure that's exactly what you're going to do.
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>Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:56:22 -0700
>From: godshatter at yahoo.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] more guns on campus
>To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
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>Instead of phrasing it as "taking away the Universities' ability to regulate guns on campus", why not phrase it "removing unneeded restrictions on a students' Consitutionally-guaranteed right to bear arms"?  That's where I was coming from.  There is no right specifically designated in the Constitution relating to cell phone usage or computer games or eating in class, unless I missed an amendment somewhere.  That's the difference.
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>Paul, 
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>In all seriousness, what is your point regarding amendments and the new Idaho law taking away the universities' ability to regulate guns on campus? 
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>Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:46:55 -0700
>From: godshatter at yahoo.com
>To: rhayes at frontier.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
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>Did they add some new amendments to the Constitution I'm unaware of?
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>I was speaking with some of my professor friends yesterday. I asked, "If you are allowed to make classroom rules such as no cell phones, no computer games, no eating, how is it that you won't be able to say "no guns in my classroom?" I suggested going to the union and having a statewide walkout. Instead, two of these friends, who are extremely capable and long term professors said they are applying for posts in other states. For them, this is the straw (disrespect) that is breaking the camel's back.
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