<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">I don't know about the full police academy treatment, but more applicable training for enhanced carry permit holders seems like a good idea to me. I'm not talking about training in how to assault a fortified position or anything, but more training in how to use their specific weapon, what their responsibilities are, and how they are expected to react in a number of different situations would be a good idea. The more responsible. careful, and competent those permit holders are, the better for everyone (on campus or off).<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "godshatter@yahoo.com" <godshatter@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Sunil <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com>; vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 28, 2014 8:08 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] more guns on campus<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1425625662"><div><div>Since the primary theme of the pro-guns-on-campus movement is the availability of an immediate armed contingent to respond to an armed-crazy on campus . . . until the police arrive . . . perhaps an applicant, prior to being issued a CCW permit, should satisfactorily
complete polic training . . . instead of an 8-hour soiree with a for-profit "instructor".</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thoughts?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><span style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style=""><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style=""> </span></div><div><div><span style="">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="">If you want to be like the folks on
the hill."</span></div><div><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="">- John Lennon</span></div><div><span style=""> </span></div></div><div class="yiv1425625662yqt7728794787" id="yiv1425625662yqt99586"><div><br clear="none">On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:12 AM, "<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top"><div dir="ltr">What else is needed? The Constitution is the only reason the government exists, without it no other laws are valid. We can't just ignore it because the current meme is "guns are
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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top"><div dir="ltr">I don't say it that way because I want to be accurate. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">What's your basis for saying the universities' policies are "unneeded restrictions on a students' Consitutionally-guaranteed right to bear arms."? I hope you're not going to just paste in the 2nd Amendment and nothing else, but I'm pretty sure that's exactly what you're going to do.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sunil<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv1425625662yqt5152716804" id="yiv1425625662yqt78427"><div><hr id="yiv1425625662stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:56:22 -0700<br clear="none">From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] more guns on campus<br
clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">Instead of phrasing it as "taking away the Universities' ability to regulate guns on campus", why not phrase it "removing unneeded restrictions on a students' Consitutionally-guaranteed right to bear arms"? That's where I was coming from. There is no right specifically designated in the Constitution relating to cell phone usage or computer games or eating in class, unless I missed an amendment somewhere. That's the difference.<br
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</style><div><div dir="ltr">Paul, <br clear="none"><br clear="none">In all seriousness, what is your point regarding amendments and the new Idaho law taking away the universities' ability to regulate guns on campus? <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sunil<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><hr>Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:46:55 -0700<br clear="none">From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com">rhayes@frontier.com</a>; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] more guns on campus<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv1425625662ecxyiv6525843847yqt5032194442"
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