[Vision2020] Pub Owner Sparks Outrage With Sign Banning Concealed Weapons

[Donovan Arnold]

I don't see why the owner of a bar would want to ban firearms. I mean, really, when has the combination of intoxicated men and loaded guns ever gone badly? We all know too, that we have to have firearms when drinking, because what if someone tries to steal your beer? 

Donovan J. Arnold 



On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:44 PM, Janesta <janesta at gmail.com> wrote:
  
Here in Arizona, one not need have a concealed weapon permit, as it is not required by law. A gun, concealed, or not, can be carried almost anywhere.  However, there are restricted places where concealed weapons are not allowed. BARS, SCHOOLS, including universities, (if it is against their rules), inside jails, at a polling place on election day.. (not sure if AZ serves alcohol on election day..) Also, a private business may put a sign up. "Firearms not allowed in this building" Which is common in medical buildings, and some stores.

Maricopa County is a very violent place to live.  Recently, there was an incident downtown, where 3-4 men robbed a strip club. Things got out of hand and ran a muck, as they often do in these kind of situations. A Phoenix Police Officer was shot, as was one of Sheriff Joe's off duty posse members... Sad thing was, one of the men grew up in Moscow, and at one time, had a promising basketball career in front of him, until life intervened. 

Someone stole from a shopping mall, and some guy drew his gun and shot him. I could go on and on..

To be honest, seldom to do I think of being shot by someone. People are going to get a gun regardless if they need to apply for a permit or not.. Just like hard drugs, the guns are here. I'm more concerned about the crazy drivers behind the wheel of a multi-ton weapon, than a gun in the hand of someone. Most of the gun deaths down here are someone shooting somebody they know... That said.. I never go out after dark. 

Oh, one more thing which happened recently. On facebook, there are groups of people who have online garage sales.. So, I joined one in my area.. There were 8k people in this group. On the SECOND day, some guy puts up an ad for 9 GUNS!! Two were semi-automatic. I looked at those guns and wondered where they had been and where they were going.. the guy selling them had a thuggish look to him. Am I prejudging him by his looks? With 9 guns for sale, I think not! I kind of freaked out, called the police, and was told it was legal. Quit that facebook group then and there. It is supposed to be against facebook policy to sells guns in these groups. However, there is no definitive way to report guns being for sale. 

I don't drink, but if I did, there is no way I'd go into a bar of crazy drunk people. I used to tend bar at The Garden, and North Idaho Cowboy Bar in Troy.. people who are normally very nice when sober, can, and do get ornery as a bear in a bee hive after two too many.

Hope everyone is well, and your first day of Spring is a warm one!
Janesta




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

And those businesses who refuse to do business with certain people, based upon that business' "religious convuctions"? 
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>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . . 
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>On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
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>I'm not sure why anyone who exercises his right to carry would want to support a business that didn't support their right to carry. 
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>>If I don't like the policies of a business, I won't spend money there.  And if a business doesn't like a certain type of activity, I think they have the right to refuse service to anyone. 
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>>At least that's my opinion
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>>On Mar 19, 2014, at 16:14, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
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>>Courtesy of Opposing Views at:
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>>>http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/pub-owner-sparks-outrage-sign-banning-concealed-weapons-his-bar 
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>>>Pub Owner Sparks Outrage With Sign Banning Concealed Weapons
>>>A South Carolina pub owner is facing intense public backlash after he posted a sign forbidding patrons from bringing concealed weapons into his bar. 
>>>“NO CONCEALED WEAPONS ALLOWED,” the sign reads. “If you are such a loser that you feel a need to carry a gun with you when you go out, I do not want your business. Douchebag.” 
>>>The sign started bringing negative attention to Backstreets Pub & Deli when the website Twitchy grabbed an image of it off of Twitter. Hundreds of gun rights supporters have since taken to Yelp and hammered the pub with poor reviews. 
>>>“Not allowing law abiding permit holding background checked conceal carry permit holders into your establishment is begging for criminals to come in and make an easy target out of you,” one reviewer wrote. 
>>>“So, you would even insult the soldiers that fought for your freedom and right to post that offensive sign?” a reviewer named Tim asked. “Would you say the same thing to a police officer? I guess you have the right to be an idiot as well. God bless America, the Constitution and the Second Amendment.” 
>>>The bar owner, identified as Pete, says the he is a concealed carry permit holder himself. He just doesn’t think guns belong in a college town like Clemson. 
>>>“There are cops everywhere,” he said. “Cameras everywhere. Guns have no place in a college town.”
>>>Pete told the Washington Times that he stands behind the sign’s policy, but he regrets the language used on the sign. 
>>>“I’m sorry I used that language,” he said. “It just came out wrong because I was frustrated.”
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>>>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
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>>>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on) 
>>>http://www.MoscowCares.com
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>>>Tom Hansen
>>>Moscow, Idaho
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>>>"There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>>>But first you must learn how to smile as you kill, 
>>>If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
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>>>- John Lennon 
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