[Vision2020] Otter Signs Ag-Gag Bill

Sun Mar 2 10:58:46 PST 2014

I'm curious how:

"Which leads nicely into the topic of whether or not an AI Google should 
have rights.  I would consider having to comprehend decades of viz2020 
archive posts to be a cruel and unusual punishment for a sentient machine."

...translates to "applauding Google's technical advances and their 
(Google's) ability to learn more about a person than that person knows 
about him/herself".

Especially after I responded to Saundra describing the precautions I 
take against the casual leaking of information.  I obviously don't agree 
that Google should know more about me than I know about myself when I 
block javascript from google-analytics.com and googleadservices.com.  
Not to mention peeling off a private window when i log into Google+, 
gmail, or Youtube (or Facebook) in order contain their cookies from 
infecting the rest of my browsing. And, yes, I'm sure the interwebs know 
a lot about me.  I have been online in some form or another since 
probably the early 90's, if not the late 80's.  I haven't always cared 
about my online footprint.  Not that I'm Jackal or anything, I just take 
some simple precautions when I think about it.

I do applaud Google's technical advances, though.  They have some really 
sharp customers working for them.

Paul

On 03/01/2014 11:32 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> Huh?
>
> I don't recall saying that.
>
> I do recall recently accusing a Viz subscriber of being hypocritical 
> in that he expressed (earlier) a disdain for NSA's invasion of privacy 
> while applauding Google's technical advances and their (Google's) 
> ability to learn more about a person than that person knows him/herself.
>
> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2014-February/095551.html
>
> I personally feel that Snowden, one of Moscow's (the one in Russia) 
> newest immigrants, should be charged, tried, and sentenced to a long, 
> long time in prison for giving away classified defense information.  I 
> know that is exactly where I would end up if I, while in the Army, did 
> as Snowden did.
>
> I would, though, like to acknowledge Snowden's new roomie, Viktor 
> Yanukovych (the Ukraine's man on the run).   I wonder if this 
> arrangement will cause any jealousy in Snowden's boyfriend here in the 
> Nifty Fifty (USA).
>
> "Roomie, dontcha do me."
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Wow!  It seems like privacy is a double edged sword, isn't it?  You 
>> and Tom recently expressed your vehement outrage about how wrong and 
>> unethical it was for the NSA to be scanning metadata and for 
>> companies of so-called 'free' services (email accounts, search 
>> engines, etc.) to be recording your activity and scanning those 
>> records for information.  And now unsurprisingly you've 
>> flipped-flopped in favor of surreptitious video taping. *Just for the 
>> sake of consistency, please confirm that you yourself have absolutely 
>> no issue with being video taped against your knowledge on your own 
>> property and in your own home in order to ensure the you are not 
>> inflicting cruelty on <insert any living thing>.*
>>
>> For the record, I find animal cruelty to be reprehensible and I'm in 
>> favor of investigative efforts by anyone that roots out wrongdoing.
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>> > From: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm <mailto:v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
>> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> > Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:50:32 -0800
>> > Subject: [Vision2020] Otter Signs Ag-Gag Bill
>> >
>> > Just when I think Idaho can't possibly slide any further into GOP 
>> insanity,
>> > I'm proved wrong:
>> > 
>> http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/Ag-Gag-Bill-Idaho-Law-Governor-Butch-Otter-D
>> > airy-247886431.html
>> >
>> > This is beyond disgusting -- although not surprising -- that in 
>> Idaho, being
>> > a whistleblower is a bigger crime than tormenting and torturing 
>> sentient
>> > beings. And if you think this kind of despicable treatment of "farm"
>> > animals is rare in Idaho, you couldn't be more wrong. And, if you think
>> > this kind of abuse doesn't happen right here in Latah County, 
>> you're living
>> > in la-la land.
>> >
>> > Good job, Otter & you damn GOP lunatics. We'll now make it a point 
>> to make
>> > absolutely certain none of the meat or dairy products we purchase 
>> come from
>> > Idaho animals since you've decided to AGAIN condone animal abuse to 
>> protect
>> > agribuisness. The Idaho GOP has just done perhaps one of the smartest
>> > things possible to kill sustainability because the little guys will 
>> pay a
>> > bigger price than the factory farms when people like me stop buying 
>> animal
>> > product in a state that values the almighty dollar over protecting farm
>> > animals from rampant abuse. It's too bad those invested in 
>> sustainability
>> > didn't do a better job of speaking out against the ag-gag bill -- I was
>> > quite disappointed that while there has been some effective 
>> advocacy against
>> > GMOs, for raw milk, and in other issues, there seemed to be very 
>> little (if
>> > any) in-state organized opposition to the ag-gag bill. At least, 
>> according
>> > to the news articles I read. Pity.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Saundra Lund
>> > Moscow, ID
>> >
>> > I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to
>> > protection by man from cruelty of man.
>> > ~ Mahatma Ghandi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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