[Vision2020] Fw: RE: SCOTUS did not finish with the HL decision

[lfalen]

The SCOTUS decision was in favor of the separation of church and state. This is not a disease. Why should someone else pay for the consequences of your pleasure. Abstinence is only one option. I agree that not many will use it. I listed others. If an Insurance Company wants to offer a birth control policy, fine. If someone wants to buy it, fine. If some one wants to provide it free, fine. I am not into forcing anyone to do anything, with a few exceptions such as paying taxes. Forcing some one to pay for the consequences of some one else's pleasure is the opposite of separation of church and state. To claim otherwise is Orwellian.
Roger


-----Original Message-----
From: "Scott Dredge" <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>, viz <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Lynn McCollough" <lmccollough at gmail.com>
Date: 07/08/14 22:54
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] SCOTUS did not finish with the HL decision

Roger - the gloom and doom is so-called 'religious freedom' being used to exert control over women's options for birth control coverage.  If you want to make an argument against birth control coverage based on cost, then put up the numbers.  Note that:

 - Insurance companies aren't the ones pushing for dropping birth control likely because it's lower cost than prenatal care and birthing
 - Employers aren't basing their objections based on cost

Your comments regarding abstinence are just plain nutty.  That's never worked for the simple fact that the vast majority of men and woman do not abstain.  Get real.


-Scott



Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 21:26:40 -0700
To: vision2020 at moscow.com; lmccollough at gmail.com
From: lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] SCOTUS did not finish with the HL decision

 

Why the gloom and doom. It is not a disease like cancer that you have mostly no control over. It is the result of sex that except for rape is voluntary. A person can abstain, pay for their own control or go the Planed Parenthood. I understand they give away birth control products free.
This from my oldest daughter- If a women's  preferred method of birth control is to keep her clothes on, will her employer pay for her clothes?
Roger
 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lynn McCollough" <lmccollough at gmail.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: 07/08/14 07:42
Subject:  [Vision2020] SCOTUS did not finish with the HL decision

 
On Thurday, SCOTUS filed an injunction that widely expanded an employers ability to not cover birth control for women. This decision will have much greater impact than their decision regarding the Hobby Lobby filing.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/iowa-view/2014/07/08/12325985/

 
It is a shame this isn't getting the media coverage.
 
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