[Vision2020] Pot backers all abuzz about Super Bowl link
Janesta
janesta at gmail.com
Mon Jan 20 23:28:51 PST 2014
*Thinking aloud*
Perhaps the half time entertainment should be changed to...
You guessed it..
*grin*
The Doobie Brothers..
In all seriousness, about five years ago, something happened to my lungs. I
can't be in the vicinity of any kind of smoke.. campfire, chimney smoke,
cigarette smoke.. etc.. when we have dust storms down here, I am stuck in
the house. Instantly, I am in respiratory distress. It doesn't seem logical
that secondary marijuana smoke would be much of a problem for people in a
public venue, or, would it be? Smoking cigarettes isn't allowed, why would
smoking a pipe of marijuana be allowed?
My train of thought... if we, meaning the growers in Colorado, and
Washington are growing marijuana, I would imagine the product would be less
likely to have angel dust, and whatever else is put on the product before
it comes to the US.
There are 100 chemicals added to tobacco.. some for the specific purpose to
cause addiction. Ammonia is added. AMMONIA!!! For pity sakes, no wonder
people get cancer!!!
The first time I was exposed to marijuana was in 6th grade.. exposed
meaning, knowing what it was, seeing it.. smelling it... since that time,
some 45 years ago, I've never seen a pothead beat his wife senseless...
working in a hospital, I've witnessed the result of drunks beating people,
killing them even.. Potheads are not violent people.. Mix something with
the pot, and yes, the potential is there.. the only "problem" I see with
marijuana is the lack of drive and ambition in a heavy user.. but, the same
can be said about people addicted to the internet.
Hope my ramble is clearer than mud. *sigh~laugh* Lately, I've been having a
time with logic interpretation of my thoughts. A serious request.. If
there is anyone here who can help me interpret what I am supposed to do
regarding the Affordable Care Act? If so, a private conversation would be
much appreciated. I have Cobra until the end of July, and don't know when I
am to apply, and don't want to apply now, and do something incorrect in the
application process, and sign up too soon, and lose my good insurance.
Janesta
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> Sorry, life intervened there for a bit. Yes, I was speaking of smoke
> inhalation of any type. I'm all for recreational use of marijuana (though
> I'm not interested in it myself), but I don't want people to make it into
> some kind of wonder drug that will never harm you but will allow you to ace
> your math tests and feed your cats or whatever claims are being made about
> it. There are very likely long-term side-effects of inhaling smoke
> regularly, and I think people should go into it with their eyes open.
>
> Also, what do we do about all the people that are in jail because of
> possession of marijuana in the past?
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 01/20/2014 08:29 PM, Sunil wrote:
>
> Exactly how I read it. I think one difference with pot is that presumably
> users would smoke less than a regular cigarette smoker does, and therefore
> would be exposed to fewer possible carcinogens.
>
> Sunil
>
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> From: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
> To: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:24:40 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pot backers all abuzz about Super Bowl link
>
> Maybe I’m misunderstanding Paul’s point, but I understood him to mean
> inhaling smoke – of any kind, not just from marijuana – is likely dangerous
> on some level. And, while I’ve not looked up all kinds of smoke, that’s
> something I think I’d agree with, although it’s likely a matter of degree.
> Certainly, tobacco smoke is widely recognized to contain carcinogens, but
> it’s also thought that there are carcinogens in other types of smokes
> (forest fires, wood stoves, industry, etc.), particularly with extended
> exposure. At least, that’s my understanding.
>
>
>
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>
> Saundra
>
>
>
> *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [
> mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com <vision2020-bounces at moscow.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Hansen
> *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2014 7:19 PM
> *To:* Paul Rumelhart
> *Cc:* Moscow Vision 2020
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Pot backers all abuzz about Super Bowl link
>
>
>
> Mr. Rumelhart -
>
>
>
> You allege that smoking marijuana "has to be dangerous at some level" and
> that "people are downplaying it's [its] risks".
>
>
>
> I agree that people should not drive after smoking marijuana, nor should
> they partake in any other activity from which they are denied as a result
> of alcohol consumption, but . . .
>
>
>
> What risks, related to smoking marijuana, are people downplaying?
>
>
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
>
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>
> But first you must learn to smile as you kill,
>
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
>
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Cigarette smoking is more prevalent than smoking marijuana, especially
> historically, meaning more potential for cancers to develop. It's a
> reasonable concern, especially as corporations get into the marijuana
> business. You are still inhaling smoke, after all, and that has to be
> dangerous at some level.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I'm all for legalizing it, it just appears to me that
> people are downplaying it's risks.
>
> Paul
>
> On 01/20/2014 03:21 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
>
> A person is FAAARRRR more likely to develop lung cancer from inhaling
> cigarette smoke than from inhaling marijuana smoke.
>
>
>
> I do not know of ANY cases where somebody contracted cancer as a result of
> exposure to cannabis.
>
>
>
> Do you, Mr. Falen?
>
>
>
> Those were the days . . . the bud . . . the bong . . . and the . . .
>
>
>
> "Shotgun"
>
> http://www.TomandRodna.com/Songs/Shotgun.mp3
>
>
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
>
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>
> But first you must learn to smile as you kill,
>
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
>
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:53 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
>
> I do not have a problem with the legalization of pot, but there is one
> thing I think the left is overlooking and that is smoke.
>
> There seems to be a major problem with cigarette smoke. why not the same
> with marijuana smoke?
>
> Roger
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: 01/19/14 15:16
> Subject: [Vision2020] Pot backers all abuzz about Super Bowl link
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> Courtesy of today's (January 19, 2014)
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> Pot backers all abuzz about Super Bowl link
>
> WASHINGTON - If oddsmakers are correct, the Seattle Seahawks and Denver
> Broncos will win today's National Football League conference championship
> games, advancing to a truly historic Super Bowl on Feb. 2:
>
> The Marijuana Bowl? A return of the Bud Bowl?
>
> The teams represent the biggest cities in Colorado and Washington, the
> only states that have legalized the sale of recreational marijuana.
>
>
>
> Shortly after those voters made their decisions in November 2012, travel
> guide Arthur Frommer said both cities should brace for "a torrent of new
> tourism." Now the two cities might face off in one of the world's biggest
> sporting extravaganzas, giving the media a fresh story hook for the next
> two weeks.
>
> Pot backers are tickled.
>
> "It's something that those of us in the movement have had an eye on for a
> long time," said Steve Fox, who works for a marijuana-industry law firm
> in Denver.
>
> If the matchup does materialize, said Allen St. Pierre, the executive
> director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, it
> will feature "the two most pro-cannabis- legalization cities in the U.S."
> He jokingly suggested that the game be renamed "The Super Oobie
> Doobie Bowl."
>
> There is a more serious side to all this.
>
> Since Jan. 1, when Colorado opened its retail pot shops, it's been legal
> to purchase and use the drug, at least under state law. But it's still
> illegal for NFL players who live in the state to use marijuana because it's
> banned under the league's collective bargaining agreement. That will be
> true in Washington, as well, when the state opens its own shops this spring.
>
> Lobbyists are pushing the NFL to stop punishing players who fail drug
> tests for smoking pot, saying the drug could help them deal with
> concussions and other injuries.
>
> And they want to call attention to the league's cozy relationship with the
> alcohol industry: Anheuser-Busch, for example, pitches its Bud Light as the
> "proud sponsor of the NFL" and once aired ads showing Budweiser and Bud
> Light beer bottles competing in a halftime "Bud Bowl" football game.
>
> "Hopefully there will be a break in the beer commercials for some
> discussion about marijuana laws," said Mason Tvert, spokesman for the
> pro-legalization Marijuana Policy Project in Denver.
>
> In September, the organization put up a 48-foot-wide billboard next to
> Denver's Sports Authority Field at Mile High, urging the NFL to "stop
> driving players to drink" and saying that pot represented "a safer choice"
> for the athletes. And the group launched a petition to pressure NFL
> Commissioner Roger Goodell to change the league's marijuana policy.
>
> Fox, the marijuana industry lawyer, pointed out that the Broncos and
> Seahawks both lost key players this season for violating the NFL drug
> policy, reportedly because of marijuana use.
>
> He said the NFL should follow the National Hockey League, which tests only
> for performance-enhancing drugs.
>
> And he noted that the World Anti-Doping Agency responded to more lax drug
> laws in many countries last summer by loosening the marijuana standard for
> Olympic athletes.
>
> Goodell caused a stir last week during an interview with *ESPN.com*<http://espn.com/>when
> he left open the possibility of the league allowing players to use medical
> marijuana in the future.
>
> With the commissioner even talking about marijuana during the playoffs,
> St. Pierre said the public could expect to hear plenty about pot in the
> next two weeks, even if Seattle and Denver don't win their games.
>
> "I think there will be more references to pot going into the Super Bowl
> week media hype than any previous NFL game in history," he said.
>
> Comedian Jay Leno jumped in Tuesday night during his monologue on NBC's
> "The Tonight Show," saying a Denver-Seattle matchup would give "a whole new
> meaning to the term Super Bowl."
>
> Fox and Tvert boasted that even the visiting teams in Sunday's games - the
> San Francisco 49ers will travel to Seattle, while the New England Patriots
> go to Denver - represent regions of the country where marijuana use is
> allowed for medical purposes.
>
> "It won't be long before it's unique to have two teams in the Super Bowl
> that haven't made marijuana legal," Tvert said.
>
> For this year, at least, it's been a tough season for NFL teams from
> states where all pot use is outlawed.
>
> Among the losers in the playoffs this month: the Carolina Panthers,
> Indianapolis Colts, Kansas City Chiefs, Green Bay Packers, Philadelphia
> Eagles, New Orleans Saints and Cincinnati Bengals.
>
> "If you noticed, the more marijuana-friendly localities really kicked
> butt," Fox said. "I don't know what it really means in the grand scheme of
> things, but it's a nice bit of karma if nothing else."
>
>
>
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>
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
>
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
>
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>
> But first you must learn to smile as you kill,
>
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
>
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
>
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