[Vision2020] Say What?

[Paul Rumelhart]

First, I did not claim that I am OK with Google obtaining private and personal information.  I merely made a joke.

Second, Google collects information I voluntarily give it, for the most part.  Since I run NoScript and don't enable google analytics, they have a tougher time following me around the net.  They also provide the ability to delete what data they collect if I wish to do so.

The NSA, on the other hand, did not get any of my information from me voluntarily.  They provide no means of finding out what information they have collected, or any process by which you can delete it.  Furthermore, as an agency of the government, they are only supposed to collect information from me via a warrant and only when they have probable cause to do so, Patriot Act be damned.

Paul




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 From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>; viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
 


This comes as no surprise that the same people, here on the Viz, that strongly criticized the NSA's security measures as invasion of privacy . . . applaud a private corporation's ability to obtain private and personal informaton without consent.


Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com
  
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still.
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon
  

On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:


"Wouldn't surprise me.  Kurzwell is a visionary and is very knowledgeable about where the AI technology is today and can extrapolate where it 
will be in the future.  It will be able to quickly process and 
comprehend decades of viz2020 archive posts."
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>Which leads nicely into the topic of whether or not an AI Google should have rights.  I would consider having to comprehend decades of viz2020 archive posts to be a cruel and unusual punishment for a sentient machine.
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>Paul
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> From: Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com>
>To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>; viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 
>Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:43 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
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>With context:
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>Kurzweil believes that Google will soon "know the answer to your 
question before you have asked it. It will have read every email you've 
ever written, every document, every idle thought you've ever tapped into
 a search-engine box. It will know you better than your intimate partner
 does. Better, perhaps, than even yourself." 
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>Wouldn't surprise me.  Kurzwell is a visionary and is very knowledgeable about where the AI technology is today and can extrapolate where it will be in the future.  It will be able to quickly process and comprehend decades of viz2020 archive posts.
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>From: thansen at moscow.com
>Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 02:52:31 -0800
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?
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>"It will know you better than your intimate partner does. Better, perhaps, than even yourself."
>- Ray Kurzweil on the future of Google, where he serves as director of engineering.------------------------
>No need to be concerned.  Right, V-Peeps?
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>As NSA woukd suggest . . .
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>This conversation is not being recorded.  Just speak loudly, distinctly, and directly to the pencil sharpener.
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>Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
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>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>http://www.MoscowCares.com
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>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
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>"There's room at the top they are telling you still.
>But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
>If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
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>- John Lennon
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