<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">First, I did not claim that I am OK with Google obtaining private and personal information. I merely made a joke.<br><br>Second, Google collects information I voluntarily give it, for the most part. Since I run NoScript and don't enable google analytics, they have a tougher time following me around the net. They also provide the ability to delete what data they collect if I wish to do so.<br><br>The NSA, on the other hand, did not get any of my information from me voluntarily. They provide no means of finding out what information they have collected, or any process by which you can delete it. Furthermore, as an agency of the government, they are only supposed to collect information from me via a warrant and only when they have probable cause to do so, Patriot Act be
damned.<br><br>Paul<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Scott Dredge <scooterd408@hotmail.com>; viz <vision2020@moscow.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:17 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv3312485618"><div><div>This
comes as no surprise that the same people, here on the Viz, that strongly criticized the NSA's security measures as invasion of privacy . . . applaud a private corporation's ability to obtain private and personal informaton without consent.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><span style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style=""><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style=""> </span></div><div><div><span style="">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span></div><div><span style="">But first you
must learn how to smile as you kill,</span></div><div><span style="">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="">- John Lennon</span></div><div><span style=""> </span></div></div><div class="yiv3312485618yqt0686809774" id="yiv3312485618yqt66898"><div><br clear="none">On Feb 25, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div><span>"</span>Wouldn't surprise me. Kurzwell is a visionary and is very knowledgeable
about where the AI technology is today and can extrapolate where it
will be in the future. It will be able to quickly process and
comprehend decades of viz2020 archive posts."</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Which leads nicely into the topic of whether or not an AI Google should have rights. I would consider having to comprehend decades of viz2020 archive posts to be a cruel and unusual punishment for a sentient machine.</div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:13.3333px;font-family:HelveticaNeue,
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;">Paul<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Scott Dredge <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Tom Hansen <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>>; viz <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect"
ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:43 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv3312485618y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv3312485618"><style>#yiv3312485618 --
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#yiv3312485618 </style><div><div dir="ltr">With context:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Kurzweil believes that Google will soon "know the answer to your
question before you have asked it. It will have read every email you've
ever written, every document, every idle thought you've ever tapped into
a search-engine box. It will know you better than your intimate partner
does. Better, perhaps, than even yourself." <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Wouldn't surprise me. Kurzwell is a visionary and is very knowledgeable about where the AI technology is today and can extrapolate where it will be in the future. It will be able to quickly process and comprehend decades of viz2020 archive posts.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div class="yiv3312485618yqt8330849717" id="yiv3312485618yqtfd67967"><hr id="yiv3312485618stopSpelling">From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 02:52:31 -0800<br clear="none">To: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br clear="none">Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="padding:5px 0px;"><span
style="">"It will know you better than your intimate partner does. Better, perhaps, than even yourself."</span></div><div style="padding:5px 0px;"><span style="">- </span><span style="">Ray Kurzweil on the future of Google, where he serves as
director of engineering.</span></div>------------------------<div>No need to be concerned. Right, V-Peeps?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>As NSA woukd suggest . . .</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>This conversation is not being recorded. Just speak loudly, distinctly, and directly to the pencil sharpener.<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div style=""><span style="">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div style=""><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></div><div style=""><span style="">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style=""><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div style=""><span style=""> </span></div><div style=""><div><span style="">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div
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