[Vision2020] Proposal: Change Listserv Name

Darrell Keim keim153 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 3 23:04:33 PDT 2014


You seem to of changed your mind from your prior post:

"I vote nay---I delete many messages, but often there is a gem. And as I
don't go to the Market (after being a vendor at two during the week, I just
can't get up the energy), but enjoy the pictures. I LIKE "Caturday" 'cause
I'm one of those crazy cat lovers. As I am on dial-up and they take a while
to download, I could complain....not gonna.

I think the 3-per-day would be good, but I'm not wedded to it. I would also
like to read more local discussion...
Debi R-S"

For what it is worth-I agree.  Tom does often post gems.


On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 9:32 PM, deb <debismith at moscow.com> wrote:

>  Well, if ya'll have something to say, I suggest you say it. Tom posts
> community news, national info, and international info. You all never post
> unless you are hammering Tom.  Tom puts his *money *where his mouth is,
> supports local causes, and keeps the community informed. And you did
> F---ing what? Beat up Tom? Whoohoo for you....Until you all do the
> community service with the $$ to back it, I'm thinking you might just shut
> the ghekll up! Just sayin',,,Maybe I'm not aware of your contributions to
> the food bank, your assistance with diversity initiatives, your presence
> and filming at community events. I may not have seen you at local art
> shows, at food collection points, at anti- or-pro whatever protests, but
> Tom was there. At all of them. If he wants to post 290 times per day, so be
> it....you all don't post unless it is a response to Tom. Get a clue, dudes.
> It's so easy to lash back, but it is difficult to make a reasoned argument
> when faced with the facts Tom posts.
>
> Perhaps he can consolidate his posts, and perhaps some are too cute to
> appeal to you----you are grown-ups. Delete is an option.Get over yourself,
> post something substantial, be grown-ups for a minute!
>
> Tired of you Ninny Teas!  Who pours? The most "put out Ninny" of the "Tea
> Party"? Stop being assine if you want some credibility. Words too big for
> you? How about "Just Shut until up you have ANYTHING of substance to say,
> you Bozos"?
>
> Rant done...
> Debi R-S
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
> *To:* lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> *Cc:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 8:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Proposal: Change Listserv Name
>
> That s been my general policy, Roger.  9 posts before 9am?  C'mon!  This
> is not Tom's personal blog. Many of his posts would be perfect Facebook
> fodder-which he uses comparatively little.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:13 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have not checked the vision for a couple  of days, so have missed  some
>> of this discussion. Granted Tom posts a lot, but if you are not interested
>> just delete them. I delete most of the Farmers Market, Human Toll, and
>> Christ Church Posts. I am hit and miss on Caturday. It depends on how much
>> time I have. But in general like the posts. As a member of FIRE I advocate
>> a free and open discussion. I post things from The Smithsonian, Scientific
>> American, Discover Magazine, National Geographic, White Pine Native Plant
>> Society, Stuff from Nutrition Publications and Food Safety. They are
>> probably not of interest to lot of people. Hopefully they are to some. Use
>> the delete key if you aren't interested
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Saundra Lund" <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
>> To: "Darrell Keim" <keim153 at gmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Date: 08/02/14 11:51
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Proposal: Change Listserv Name
>>
>>
>> Good topic to bring up - thanks, Darrell!
>>
>> Well, that's one proposal.
>>
>> My proposal is that we all get back to honoring the idea of limiting our
>> posts to three per day. Given the fact that there was a day in July when I
>> myself didn't honor that, I realize I'm at risk of someone bringing an
>> analogy about the pots & kettles to my attention <g>.
>>
>> However, the "try to limit your posts to three a day" has, for the most
>> part, worked for years & years & years, and my hope is that it will work
>> again because I'm attached to this name!
>>
>> I could be wrong, but I don't think most folks mind when individuals
>> *occasionally* go over three posts a day when actually engaged in an
>> active discussion, particularly about local issues. I also think folks are
>> more tolerant when infrequent posters engage in actual discussions go over
>> three posts in a day, whether about local issues or not.
>>
>> BTW, something *I* really miss are the discussions about *local* issues.
>> Over time, they have become fewer and further between here, it seems to me.
>> I know for me personally, I don't bring up many local issues anymore since
>> I no longer subscribe to a local newspaper, so I'd appreciate learning
>> about local issues I might otherwise be unaware of from discussion here.
>>
>> I think keeping to three posts a day should be something relatively
>> simple to do, too. Since Darrell brought up Tom's posts, I took a look and
>> Tom could pretty easily just combine things into one post. For instance,
>> the three Farmer's Market posts today could have been combined into one,
>> and the three mp3 posts could have been combined into one, yes?
>>
>> So, that's my vote: let's get back to trying to keep our posts to three
>> per day.
>>
>>
>>
>> Saundra Lund
>> Moscow, ID
>>
>> Compassion is the basis of all morality.
>> ~ Arthur Schopenhuaer
>>
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>>
>>
>>  *From:* vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:
>> vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] *On Behalf Of* Darrell Keim
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 02, 2014 10:41 AM
>> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
>> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Proposal: Change Listserv Name
>>
>>  I opened up my email this morning at 9am to 8 emails from Tom Hansen.
>>
>>  And the day is just getting started.
>>
>>  This made me curious.  How much does Tom post?  So I looked at
>> yesterday: 7 emails.  Thursday: 8 emails.  I stopped there.
>>
>>  In light of this, I propose a name change.  Instead of "Moscow Vision
>> 2020" I propose "Hansen's Moscow 24/7."
>>
>>  All in favor?
>>
>>
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