[Vision2020] Barricades in my yard!

Sat Sep 28 10:29:37 PDT 2013

Sunil writes:
<Are you channeling Jimmy the Greek?>
Perhaps - I'm not sure where it's coming from.

Sue writes:
<Oh, Scott, that response would make delightful fodder for a panel 
discussion on female empowerment...Just wondering, how many women were 
inducted into the Hall of Fame that evening?>

Sadly, no women 
were inducted that evening Sue.  Honestly, I can't recall attending any 
induction ceremonies where women were being honored / inducted.  I don't
 go to them anymore.  Most of those guys are into self-promotion anyway 
so the acceptances typically intro with 'I'd like to thank my wife' 
followed by a long winded speech recapping their entire self described 
'brilliant career'.  I'm not sure exactly what qualifications are 
required for being included in the UI Hall of Fame but I imagine your 
chances improve in a linear fashion based on how much money potential 
candidates have donated to the UI.  And the biggest spenders might also negotiate forking over an additional $,$$$,$$$ in exchange for an 
honorary doctorate degree.  Yet another example of 
fat white male entitlement I suppose.  :(

-Scott

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From: suehovey at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barricades in my yard!
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 09:20:35 -0700
To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com

Oh, Scott, that response would make delightful fodder for a panel discussion on female empowerment...Just wondering, how many women were inducted into the Hall of Fame that evening?
sueh

Sent from my iPad Sue Hovey
On Sep 27, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:

<My favorite political science professor, in referring to males worldwide
 and historically having "unearned and unacknowledged packages of 
personal privilege.">

Why is this?  Women are obviously far smarter than men, infinitely more intuitive, are capable of multitasking, and can live just fine without men.  The only thing I can figure is that men can actually collaborate and get along with each other and can form a united front and a powerful structure whereas women are vicious and catty to each other so they're left to just fend for themselves.  Typically even when a guy cheats on his wife and is painfully obviously in the wrong, other women blame the wife, and just as bad the wife accepts responsibility.  I find this to be puzzling.

I was at a UI Hall of Fame induction ceremony a few years and every single one of the 5 guys that was being inducted for whatever great achievement they were being recognized for said they would be nothing were it not for their wives.  One guy even said he'd be dead if it wasn't for his wife.  My take was that they should have inducted the wives into the UI Hall of Fame and thus given credit where it was due.

I think the reason why the Doug Wilson's and other ultra conservatives of the world are so hell bent on keeping women oppressed is because they know damn well they'd take over the world if given a quarter of a chance.

From: suehovey at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:05:59 -0700
To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barricades in my yard!

My favorite political science professor, in referring to males worldwide and historically having "unearned and unacknowledged packages of personal privilege."  Can one argue the condition has disappeared?  I certainly think not.  
Sue h

Sent from my iPad Sue Hovey
On Sep 27, 2013, at 4:34 PM, "Saundra Lund" <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> wrote:

It’s a phrase that’s popular in our home to describe an unearned sense of entitlement often exhibited by fat (meaning not economically disadvantaged) white men particularly.  Another way I’ve heard it phrased is “It’s a rich white man’s problem,” when whining about such important topics as having to drive too far to have a luxury auto serviced, not being able to order Kobe beef at the local restaurant, and no first class seats available for a 90 minute flight. Wayne’s public whine-fest about the Mayor not immediately dropping everything to take his call about the barricades placed – or misplaced – on his property by the street department strikes me as a similar kind of thing.  Maybe I run in the wrong circles, but I don’t know a single person other than Wayne Price who would expect to have the mayor on the kind of string Wayne thinks he’s entitled to have, especially without having tried a really simple self-help thing like calling the street department FIRST. Mind you, my reaction would have been different had Wayne said something like, “Hey – I called the street department two days ago about the barricades on my property but haven’t gotten a response yet, and I’m worried because we’re coming up on a weekend.” But, that’s not what happened, is it? Rather, anyone with connected brain cells can see that it was just an excuse to advocate for his mayoral candidate – Bill “The Bully” Lambert – while taking a cheap shot at current mayor.  Pretty pathetic.  Saundra From: Scott Dredge [mailto:scooterd408 at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:17 PM
To: Saundra Lund; viz
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Barricades in my yard! 
<Sense of unearned fat white man entitlement much, Wayne?>

What does this mean?  I googled it but didn't hit on anything that looked viable so I trimmed the fat down to 'white entitlement' and got a hit on 'white privilege' which in the first paragraph says can be compared / combined with the concept of 'male privilege'.

I'm against discrimination in any form that negatively affects affirmative action / equal opportunity.  I also happen to be a white male, but had no choice in the matter since I was born that way.

-Scott> From: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:51:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barricades in my yard!
> 
> No - clearly you are more of the later if you think the Mayor should
> drop everything to listen to your whining when you haven't even taken
> the common-sense approach of contacting the streets department because I
> doubt you'll be successful at convincing anyone here that you support
> the kind of micromanaging you seem to be advocating in this instance. 
> Sense of unearned fat white man entitlement much, Wayne?
> 
> Silly me - I guess I thought you were seriously interested in a
> resolution to your issue rather than to make a public whining scene. My
> mistake.
> 
> 
> Saundra
> 
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013, at 03:20 PM, Wayne Price wrote:
> > So, it's your contention that the mayor is NOT responsible for running
> > the city and responsible for what does or doesn't get done by city
> > employees?
> > 
> > I'm more of an advocate of "government of the people, by the people, for
> > the people", not government of the few, by the few, for the few!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Saundra Lund wrote:
> > 
> > > Is there some reason you've not contacted the streets department directly?
> > > That seems like a no-brainer to me, but I guess you find it more
> > > entertaining to contact the mayor & make silly public threats rather than
> > > take a common-sense approach. Here's a little clue for you: your
> > > definition of abandoned property and the laws regarding abandoned property
> > > don't coincide.
> > > 
> > > Guess you've learned your tactics well from Bill "The Bully" Lambert :-)
> > > When can we expect you to start yelling during public meetings at the
> > > hearing impaired for not being able to hear your mumbles???
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Saundra 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013, at 02:43 PM, Wayne Price wrote:
> > >> Stephanie,
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> I hope you can get this to someone who can do something about it, I 
> > >> e-mailed the incumbent mayor and she hasn't done anything, so far.
> > >> 
> > >> Someone from the city streets department deposited two metal and 
> > >> wooden street barricades IN MY YARD at 6th and Washington, and I would 
> > >> like them removed or I will consider them abandoned property, and deal 
> > >> with them accordingly. As they are wood, cutting them up and putting 
> > >> them in the winter wood pile seems like a great idea, as they have 
> > >> been abandoned here. They also visibly block the political sign I have 
> > >> in my yard support Bill Lambert for Mayor, which is either just an 
> > >> error or a purposeful act, but either way, the city has NO permission 
> > >> to store the barricades IN MY YARD and I'd like them removed immediately.
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Wayne M. Price
> > >> 
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