[Vision2020] "School the House Rock" by Roy Zimmerman

[Gary Crabtree]

"The Affordable Care Act did not become law by executive order."

I didn't say that it did.

"The Affordable Care Act became law when it was signed by the
president after passing the House and Senate, each by a majority vote.
 At the time of the passing of the act, the democrats had a majority
of both the House and Senate.  Each and every member of the House and
Senate were voted into office by THE PEOPLE."

Had you read my initial post a little more carefully you might have
noticed that I wrote that the law had been changed 19 times SINCE the
law had been passed and cleared a supreme court challenge. Changed by
extra legal executive action purely for the benefit of political
supporters.

g



On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> Mr. Crabtree:
>
> The Affordable Care Act did not become law by executive order.
>
> The Affordable Care Act became law when it was signed by the president after
> passing the House and Senate, each by a majority vote.  At the time of the
> passing of the act, the democrats had a majority of both the House and
> Senate.  Each and every member of the House and Senate were voted into
> office by THE PEOPLE.
>
> Do you require further clarification?
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It seems to me that the constitution has been treated pretty shabbily
> by the current administration.
> Both when it did have both the house and senate as well as when it did
> not. Beyond this, you'll need to be a little bit more on point with
> your question. If you're suggesting that amending laws with nothing
> more then executive say so is all well and good when it's your lil'
> darling in the top spot, I'm guessing you will find it burdensome when
> it's someone else's.
>
> g
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> So, when bills are passed (and, thus, become the law of the land) at the
>
> time that the majority party of both the House and Senate is the same party
>
> as the President, what would you suggest, Mr. Crabtree?
>
>
> Temporarily suspending the Constitution?
>
>
> (Anxiously awaiting your response)
>
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> "But once it's been decided it's a law
>
>
> Yes, it's the law of the land, and all the negotiations and
>
> compromises have happened already."
>
>
> If your Tom Lehrer never be pal had this right in this particular
>
> case, why was the law changed 19 times since being signed and passing
>
> a supreme court challenge with zero GOP input and with a goodly number
>
> of the changes being exemptions for Obama and dem friendlies?
>
>
> I'm thinking that if this is to be  the new standard practice then
>
> once there is a Republican president in the whitehouse ( and there
>
> eventually will be, of course) using this new normal order optional
>
> process ought to be a hoot.
>
>
> g
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-mE0hUh0sE
>
>
>
> SCHOOL THE HOUSE ROCK
>
>
>
> (Sing along . . . )
>
>
>
> "Hey, Tea Party House members: This one's for you!
>
>
>
> You dress up like a Founding Father
>
>
> So you might think you'd bother
>
>
> To read the Constitution in your pocket
>
>
> But you need some schooling, so let's rock it!
>
>
>
> There are three branches
>
>
> Three branches of government
>
>
> Three branches of government
>
>
> Like the three corners of your hat
>
>
>
> That should make it easier for you to remember.
>
>
>
> There's the legislative branch - that would be you
>
>
> The Executive Branch - that's ... You-Know-Who
>
>
> And then there's the branch that you call the Ju...
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>
> Diciary
>
>
> And that's necessary for the
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>
>
> Checks and balances
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>
> Checks and balances among the three branches
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>
> Three branches of government
>
>
> Like the three corners of your hat
>
>
>
> With me so far?
>
>
>
> Now, you can pass a bill, and when you do
>
>
> It's signed into law by you-know-who
>
>
> Or vetoed, and then it comes back to you
>
>
> And you might override it,
>
>
> But once it's been decided it's a law
>
>
>
> Yes, it's the law of the land, and all the negotiations and compromises have
>
>
> happened already.
>
>
>
> Now you may say the law's "Unconstitutional"
>
>
> Then the Constitution tells us the solution'll be
>
>
> To take the question of its constitutionality
>
>
> To the Supreme Court to decide it's ultimate legality
>
>
>
> Now you can repeal a law, unless you try 42 times and you don't have the
>
>
> votes. But you can't find a law unconstitutional; that power belongs to the
>
>
> Judicial Branch. And withholding funding from a law you don't like is, in
>
>
> effect, vetoing that law. And funding only certain parts of the law is an
>
>
> attempt to exercise a line-item veto. You don't have the power to veto; that
>
>
> power belongs to the Executive Branch. So, if the Legislative Branch -
>
>
> that's you - usurps the power to determine constitutionality and the veto
>
>
> power, what's really being vetoed is the Rule of Law. And what's really
>
>
> being compromised is the Constitution.Still with me?
>
>
>
> So you can pass a bill, and when you do
>
>
> If you cry "Boo hoo, it's unconstitu...
>
>
> tional," then try to veto it, well here's a clue:
>
>
> Your hat only has one point
>
>
>
> That's the School the House Rock
>
>
> That's the School the House Rock
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Seeya at the Wingding on June 6th, Moscow, because . . .
>
>
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>
>
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>
>
>
> Tom Hansen
>
>
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>
>
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>
>
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
>
>
> - John Lennon
>
>
>
>
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