[Vision2020] "School the House Rock" by Roy Zimmerman

Sun Oct 6 14:50:36 PDT 2013

Mr. Crabtree:

The Affordable Care Act did not become law by executive order.

The Affordable Care Act became law when it was signed by the president after passing the House and Senate, each by a majority vote.  At the time of the passing of the act, the democrats had a majority of both the House and Senate.  Each and every member of the House and Senate were voted into office by THE PEOPLE.

Do you require further clarification?

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still 
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon

> On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It seems to me that the constitution has been treated pretty shabbily
> by the current administration.
> Both when it did have both the house and senate as well as when it did
> not. Beyond this, you'll need to be a little bit more on point with
> your question. If you're suggesting that amending laws with nothing
> more then executive say so is all well and good when it's your lil'
> darling in the top spot, I'm guessing you will find it burdensome when
> it's someone else's.
> 
> g
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>> So, when bills are passed (and, thus, become the law of the land) at the
>> time that the majority party of both the House and Senate is the same party
>> as the President, what would you suggest, Mr. Crabtree?
>> 
>> Temporarily suspending the Constitution?
>> 
>> (Anxiously awaiting your response)
>> 
>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>> 
>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>> 
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>> 
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>> 
>> - John Lennon
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> "But once it's been decided it's a law
>> 
>> Yes, it's the law of the land, and all the negotiations and
>> compromises have happened already."
>> 
>> If your Tom Lehrer never be pal had this right in this particular
>> case, why was the law changed 19 times since being signed and passing
>> a supreme court challenge with zero GOP input and with a goodly number
>> of the changes being exemptions for Obama and dem friendlies?
>> 
>> I'm thinking that if this is to be  the new standard practice then
>> once there is a Republican president in the whitehouse ( and there
>> eventually will be, of course) using this new normal order optional
>> process ought to be a hoot.
>> 
>> g
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-mE0hUh0sE
>> 
>> 
>> SCHOOL THE HOUSE ROCK
>> 
>> 
>> (Sing along . . . )
>> 
>> 
>> "Hey, Tea Party House members: This one's for you!
>> 
>> 
>> You dress up like a Founding Father
>> 
>> So you might think you'd bother
>> 
>> To read the Constitution in your pocket
>> 
>> But you need some schooling, so let's rock it!
>> 
>> 
>> There are three branches
>> 
>> Three branches of government
>> 
>> Three branches of government
>> 
>> Like the three corners of your hat
>> 
>> 
>> That should make it easier for you to remember.
>> 
>> 
>> There's the legislative branch - that would be you
>> 
>> The Executive Branch - that's ... You-Know-Who
>> 
>> And then there's the branch that you call the Ju...
>> 
>> Diciary
>> 
>> And that's necessary for the
>> 
>> 
>> Checks and balances
>> 
>> Checks and balances among the three branches
>> 
>> Three branches of government
>> 
>> Like the three corners of your hat
>> 
>> 
>> With me so far?
>> 
>> 
>> Now, you can pass a bill, and when you do
>> 
>> It's signed into law by you-know-who
>> 
>> Or vetoed, and then it comes back to you
>> 
>> And you might override it,
>> 
>> But once it's been decided it's a law
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, it's the law of the land, and all the negotiations and compromises have
>> 
>> happened already.
>> 
>> 
>> Now you may say the law's "Unconstitutional"
>> 
>> Then the Constitution tells us the solution'll be
>> 
>> To take the question of its constitutionality
>> 
>> To the Supreme Court to decide it's ultimate legality
>> 
>> 
>> Now you can repeal a law, unless you try 42 times and you don't have the
>> 
>> votes. But you can't find a law unconstitutional; that power belongs to the
>> 
>> Judicial Branch. And withholding funding from a law you don't like is, in
>> 
>> effect, vetoing that law. And funding only certain parts of the law is an
>> 
>> attempt to exercise a line-item veto. You don't have the power to veto; that
>> 
>> power belongs to the Executive Branch. So, if the Legislative Branch -
>> 
>> that's you - usurps the power to determine constitutionality and the veto
>> 
>> power, what's really being vetoed is the Rule of Law. And what's really
>> 
>> being compromised is the Constitution.Still with me?
>> 
>> 
>> So you can pass a bill, and when you do
>> 
>> If you cry "Boo hoo, it's unconstitu...
>> 
>> tional," then try to veto it, well here's a clue:
>> 
>> Your hat only has one point
>> 
>> 
>> That's the School the House Rock
>> 
>> That's the School the House Rock
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------------
>> 
>> 
>> Seeya at the Wingding on June 6th, Moscow, because . . .
>> 
>> 
>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>> 
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com
>> 
>> 
>> Tom Hansen
>> 
>> Moscow, Idaho
>> 
>> 
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still
>> 
>> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
>> 
>> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>> 
>> 
>> - John Lennon
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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