[Vision2020] Pat Condell -- Muslims must reject jihad

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Wed May 29 14:13:57 PDT 2013


Is the issue a moral issue or a psychological issue or a practical issue?
If I say "Christians should stop doing X" and it turns out that they can't
or won't stop doing it, it doesn't follow that they shouldn't stop doing
it. Ideological stubbornness is not an excuse.

I love how the radical right can turn a vice into a virtue. They're not
going to give up their beliefs, so they get to have them, unchallenged. We
should just give up and learn to live with their complete irrationality.
But when it comes to the rest of the world, there is no need for such
tolerance since the rest of the world has it all wrong.

Unfortunately, this strategy has proved to be a political failure on the
national level. Of course, there is always gerrymandering!


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>wrote:

> I believe that Pat Condell was more concerned with what was happening on
> this plane of existence, not some other (possibly fictional) one.  It would
> be more like saying that Christians need to give up killing abortion
> doctors.  Which, by the way, sounds like a good thing.
>
> Paul
>
>
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>  *From:* Nicholas Gier <ngier006 at gmail.com>
> *To:* Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Pat Condell -- Muslims must reject jihad
>
> Good Morning Visionaries:
>
> Does this mean that fundamentalist Christians must give up the idea of the
> Rapture, in which they are sitting in their harps watching the rest of us
> burn to a crisp?
>
> Ever yours for much better theology from all sides,
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Sunil Ramalingam <
> sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> And the West needs to give up bombing and interfering in Muslim countries.
>
> Sunil
>
> > Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 12:04:57 -0700
> > From: kmmos1 at frontier.com
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Pat Condell -- Muslims must reject jihad
> >
> > In the wake of a soldier's murder in London by Islamic jihadists, Pat
> > Condell says it is time to take sides. Muslims must reject jihad.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz267A6jhbw
> >
> > Time Length: 6:34
> >
> >
> > Ken
> >
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