[Vision2020] Huh? Say WHAT!?

Fri Mar 1 20:58:39 PST 2013

"I argued at length that all the arguments employed to advance same sex marriage can be, are being, and will be used to advance polygamy also. In short, gay marriage greases the skids for polygamy."

If nothing else this thread has certainly proven Doug to be spot on in his analysis. Goodness knows that's gotta sting.

g

From: Joe Campbell 
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 6:06 PM
To: Gary Crabtree 
Cc: Tom Hansen ; Paul Rumelhart ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh? Say WHAT!?

I'm not denying anything. Maybe three or more. I just don't want to confuse it with the issue of same-sex marriage. That seems important to me, just because I can see the folks that such a law might help. I don't happen to meet many polygamists, so I'm not too concerned for now.

Why not take one step: include same-sex marriages. If the polygamists complain as much as the gays and lesbians, we might have to revisit the issue.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Gary Crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

  Then why deny three or more?

  g

  From: Tom Hansen 
  Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 2:07 PM
  To: Paul Rumelhart 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh? Say WHAT!?

  I absolutely fail to see what the happiness of two adults has ANYTHING to do with a polygamous relationship.

  Let me simply say . . .

  Later this year, I turn 62, my spouse turns whatever age she acquires, and we (my spouse and I) turn 40; forty of the most wonderfully memorable and loving years of yesterdays that will only be improved upon with tomorrows.  

  To deny ANY two individuals of such an experience, merely because it runs contra to somebody else's belief system, lacks the slightest inkling of human compassion.

  Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .

  "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
  http://www.MoscowCares.com

  Tom Hansen
  Moscow, Idaho

  "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
  But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
  If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

  - John Lennon

  On Mar 1, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

    I think the general argument would run something like this:  "if it's OK for any two consenting adults of either gender to marry, then why isn't it OK for any three or more consenting adults of any gender to marry?"

    If that's what he's thinking, I can kind of see his point.  Of course, I'm personally fine with gay marriage, and would have no problems with polygamy either.  I'd be happiest if the government got out of the marriage racket to begin with, frankly.

    Paul

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    From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
    To: Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> 
    Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
    Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 11:39 AM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Huh? Say WHAT!?

    Well, if he argued that polygamy and gay marriage are similar, then that is just another fallacious argument. It is like arguing that we can give every adult the right to vote because that would lead to some folks voting more than once. We would be powerless to avoid that! 

    On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com> wrote:

      Cultmaster Wilson is hopelessly floundering as he is swept out to sea on the tide of reality and oncoming change.  But that's what happens to those that allege total faith in some "inerrant" ancient texts.  Foolhardiness begets misery for others.

      It's too bad that the Cultmaster is not a Mormon so that he could have a "new" vision from some alleged God correcting his current views.

      w.

      On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

        "I argued at length that all the arguments employed to advance same sex marriage can be, are being, and will be used to advance polygamy also. In short, gay marriage greases the skids for polygamy."

        - Doug Wilson (March 1, 2013)
        http://www.dougwils.com/Sex-and-Culture/a-century-of-sinkholes.html

        Seeya round town, Moscow, because . . .

        "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
        http://www.MoscowCares.com

        Tom Hansen
        Moscow, Idaho

        "There's room at the top they are telling you still 
        But first you must learn how to smile as you kill 
        If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

        - John Lennon

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