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[Joe Campbell]

I think it is fair to say that only you and a handful of others said
something. I'm not sure the commentators are reading your posts on Vision
2020!

Also, I'm not sure how many Democrats are on Obama's side about this. I
don't see a lot of folks defending Obama.


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>wrote:

> "The gist of those commentaries -- by different commentators -- was that
> the practice has been going on for awhile now, as part of the hit that
> civil liberties took from the Patriot Act (as Saundra notes) and no one
> said anything about it then."
>
> I take exception to their comments.  I did say something when the Patriot
> Act was being debated.  I was always of the opinion that by signing the
> Patriot Act into law, we conceded a loss to the terrorists.  I stated many
> times that we shouldn't give up our civil liberties because of 9/11, and
> that our best response was "bring it on, motherf***ers!" rather than acting
> like a bunch of cowards.  I objected to Gitmo, waterboarding, extraordinary
> rendition, and all the others in the long list of  civil rights abuses, as
> I still do.
>
> I can't help it if so many people wanted to hop on the revenge train and
> were willing to give up the high ground in order to do so.
>
> Paul
>
>
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