[Vision2020] Biblical Marriage Not Defined Simply As One Man, One Woman: Iowa Religious Scholars' Op-Ed

[Art Deco]

Donovan writes:

"The Bible isn't really about social justice anyway. It is about saving
your soul. It didn't condemn ownership of people, abuse of children,
multiple spouses, or for the rights of all men and women."

So is that what heaven is going to be like?  Slavery, child abuse,
continued homophobia, sexism, racism, theocracy, etc.  Why would you want
to have your soul saved so that you could see and experience those things
for an eternity?

w.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:

>   I think you are correct that nothing in the bible prohibits marriage
> between homosexual persons.  The passages in Romans and Leviticus speak
> only of homosexual acts.  I think it’s interesting, though, that you say
> the bible is only about saving your soul.  When one looks at the many
> passages in the bible that define behavior as right or wrong, they extend
> way beyond soul saving.  If one distilled the bible into just those verses
> that describe the saving of a person’s soul, you could take, “Believe on
> the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved,” and put it on a single
> sheet.
>
> Please don’t infer from what I am saying here that I oppose gay marriage.
> I don’t.  What I oppose is the use of bible  proof-texting to make a point.
>
> Sue
>
>  *From:* Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 09, 2013 9:51 PM
> *To:* Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> ; Joe Campbell<philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Biblical Marriage Not Defined Simply As One
> Man,One Woman: Iowa Religious Scholars' Op-Ed
>
>  I've never seen anything in the Bible condemning or supporting same sex
> marriage. Never been shown anything of the sort. The Bible isn't really
> about social justice anyway. It is about saving your soul. It didn't
> condemn ownership of people, abuse of children, multiple spouses, or for
> the rights of all men and women.
>
> Donovan J. Arnold
>
>   *From:* Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
> *To:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>; "vision2020 at moscowcom" <
> vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:54 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Biblical Marriage Not Defined Simply As One
> Man,One Woman: Iowa Religious Scholars' Op-Ed
> **
>   Reasonable....then whatever verse from the Bible one needs, it becomes
> the evidence, just as a news report might.
>
> Sue H
>
>  *From:* Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 07, 2013 7:57 PM
> *To:* Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
> *Cc:* Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> ;
> mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Biblical Marriage Not Defined Simply As One
> Man,One Woman: Iowa Religious Scholars' Op-Ed
>
>  This is why I view fundamentalism more as a political view than a
> religious view.
> **On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:40 PM, "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:****
>
>   While there are only a couple of verses in both the OT & NT that would
> condemn homosexual marriage, there is also very little that condemns a
> woman’s freedom to choose abortion, yet folks latch onto what they want and
> ignore that which doesn’t fit their religious paradigm.
>
> Sue h
>
>  *From:* Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 07, 2013 6:50 AM
> *To:* mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com <vision2020 at moscow.com> ;
> philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Biblical Marriage Not Defined Simply As One
> Man,One Woman: Iowa Religious Scholars' Op-Ed
>
>    Now only if reason, facts, equality, and biblical quotes convinced
> ignorant bigots we would have something to change their minds.
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>
>  *From: *Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>; ***To: *Moscow Vision
> 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>; ***Subject: *[Vision2020] Biblical Marriage
> Not Defined Simply As One Man, One Woman: Iowa Religious Scholars' Op-Ed *
> **Sent: *Fri, Jun 7, 2013 1:21:54 PM **
> **
> I was reading this article on Huffington Post, and I thought you might be
> interested in reading it, too. ****Biblical Marriage Not Defined Simply
> As One Man, One Woman: Iowa Religious Scholars' Op-Ed****
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/06/biblical-marriage-iowa-scholars-op-ed_n_3397304.html
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