[Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

[Scott Dredge]

No - it's like letting cars go through a photographed checkpoint without slowing or stopping them at all.  There is no inconvenience with this. There is nothing that seems wrong with this.  It's an efficient way to catch, prosecute, and incarcerate bad guys.  Contrast that with the inconvenience of going through security check at the airports, but even that level of stopping & searching everyone seems not to be violating anyone's constitutional rights.

-Scott

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:01:23 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program
From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
CC: godshatter at yahoo.com; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

Scott,

Isn't it a little like stopping every single car and just arresting the folks who happened to be breaking laws? That seems wrong. Maybe there is a disanalogy here.



On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Scott Dredge <scooterd408 at hotmail.com> wrote:




Neither particularly scare me.  And if those working in security departments for US government gather data on me in a way that violates the 4th amendment such that this info can't be used against me in a court of law, then I'm already protected.  What should I be worrying about that I'm currently not concerned about?  Public humiliation if this info is released to the masses?


Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 08:42:53 -0700
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: thansen at moscow.com

CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S.	Internet companies in broad secret program


Yes, events like that happen (rarely).  Does that scare the piss out of you so much that you think it's OK to watch everyone all the time?


Paul

     
   From: Tom Hansen
 <thansen at moscow.com>
 To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> 

Cc: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>; KRFP <krfp at radiofreemoscow.org>; viz <vision2020 at moscow.com> 

 Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 8:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

   
Paul Rumelhart declared:
"I'm personally about as scared of dying today in a terrorist attack as I am of seeing Tom Hansen and Doug Wilson throw down their gauntlets and become best buds."

I'll second that!  It's not like I will ever run in the Boston Marathon.
Seeya at the Wingding, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
http://www.MoscowCares.com  Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho
"There's room at the top they are telling you still 
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon
 

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:


I'm personally about as scared of dying today in a terrorist attack as I am of seeing Tom Hansen and Doug Wilson throw down their gauntlets and become best buds.  


    
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