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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>No - it's like letting cars go through a photographed checkpoint without slowing or stopping them at all. There is no inconvenience with this. There is nothing that seems wrong with this. It's an efficient way to catch, prosecute, and incarcerate bad guys. Contrast that with the inconvenience of going through security check at the airports, but even that level of stopping & searching everyone seems not to be violating anyone's constitutional rights.<br><br>-Scott<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:01:23 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program<br>From: philosopher.joe@gmail.com<br>To: scooterd408@hotmail.com<br>CC: godshatter@yahoo.com; thansen@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br><br><div dir="ltr">Scott,<br><br>Isn't it a little like stopping every single car and just arresting the folks who happened to be breaking laws? That seems wrong. Maybe there is a disanalogy here.<br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Scott Dredge <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div dir="ltr">Neither particularly scare me. And if those working in security departments for US government gather data on me in a way that violates the 4th amendment such that this info can't be used against me in a court of law, then I'm already protected. What should I be worrying about that I'm currently not concerned about? Public humiliation if this info is released to the masses?<br>
<br><div><hr>Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 08:42:53 -0700<br>From: <a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br>
CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><div class="ecxim"><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program<br>
<br><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;"><div><span>Yes, events like that happen (rarely). Does that scare the piss out of you so much that you think it's OK to watch everyone all the time?</span></div>
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<span>Paul<br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">
<font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tom Hansen
<<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Joe Campbell <<a href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com" target="_blank">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</a>>; KRFP <<a href="mailto:krfp@radiofreemoscow.org" target="_blank">krfp@radiofreemoscow.org</a>>; viz <<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 7, 2013 8:32 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] U.S. intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program<br>
</font> </div> <div><br><div><div><div>Paul Rumelhart declared:</div><div><br></div><div><span>"</span><span>I'm personally about as scared of dying today in a terrorist attack as I am of seeing Tom Hansen and Doug Wilson throw down their gauntlets and become best buds."</span></div>
<div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I'll second that! It's not like I will ever run in the Boston Marathon.</span></div><div><br><div>Seeya at the Wingding, Moscow, because . . .</div><div><br></div><div>"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</div>
<div><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank">http://www.MoscowCares.com</a></div><div> </div><div><div>Tom Hansen</div><div>Moscow, Idaho</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-size:medium;">There's room at the top they are telling you still</span><span style="font-size:medium;"> </span></div>
<span style="font-size:medium;">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill </span><br style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-size:medium;">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span></div><div><font size="3"><span><br>
</span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span>- John Lennon<br></span></font><div> </div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Paul Rumelhart <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote>I'm personally about as scared of dying today in a terrorist attack as I am of seeing Tom Hansen and Doug Wilson throw down their gauntlets and become best buds. </blockquote></div></div><br><br>
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